Glock 36, Disappointed

[scooter03]

I shot my first 36 today and yes it was a rental, so maybe that is why I was disappointed. I shot 50 rnds and guaranteed 10 or more did not fully load while shooting. While shooting, it wouldn't fire so I just barely pulled the slide no more than 1/8" and let go and it continued to load the rounds. It felt very slippery in my hands, and it felt like the tighter I held it, the worse it shot. I have very big hands and sure wished that the grips were just about 1/2" longer. I know you can get the mag extenders but it seemed like the more pressure i put on the bottom of the mag when gripping the more it fouled up. Does anyone else have this problem. maybe just me.

[shootthesheet]

I was thinking of getting one until I held it. I had a Glock 30 I just made it work.

If you want a small .45 you might try Springfield's little 1911s. They are heaver and the external safety takes some getting use to. But, with the single stack mag, short grips and barrels. They seem to fit many people well. If you still want a 36 you can have grip work done or find one that is already done. They are more expensive but might be what you are looking for. I like .45 ACP but, the choice is limited for the smaller guns.

As far as the FTF. I haven't heard it being a problem with the G36. Your control issues and possibly worn out springs may have been the problem with that one.

[scooter03]

I was thinking of getting one until I held it. I had a Glock 30 I just made it work.

If you want a small .45 you might try Springfield's little 1911s. They are heaver and the external safety takes some getting use to. But, with the single stack mag, short grips and barrels. They seem to fit many people well. If you still want a 36 you can have grip work done or find one that is already done. They are more expensive but might be what you are looking for. I like .45 ACP but, the choice is limited for the smaller guns.

As far as the FTF. I haven't heard it being a problem with the G36. Your control issues and possibly worn out springs may have been the problem with that one.

Yes I am looking at a 45 acp, I really like the feel of the G36 with the grip extender but I really think putting pressure on the mag while gripping it really caused problems with loading and ejecting of the spent rounds. I hope someone on here has a G36 that can relate to what I am talking about. I currently own a 4 in barrell 1911 in 9mm that I really love but am wanting a 45. thanks for the help though

[cyphur]

Try renting a 3" Kimber 1911. You wouldn't think they are as controllable and smooth to shoot as they are.....

[G.C.Montgomery]

Feeding issues are the primary complaint with the G36. The G30 seems to have a much better history with respect to reliability. The small 1911's in my experience, have spotty reliability and I prefer to stick with the original, 5-inch pattern. Having said that, I also find that most malfunctions with the lightweight, full-power handguns are actually user induced.

In the simplest terms, I find the shooter is not managing the extra recoil that goes with these guns. The frame is allowed to roll back in the hand excessively. This robs the slide of velocity relative to the frame, short stroking the slide and it manifests as failures to eject or failures to feed. The extra recoil is the price to be paid for the smaller, lighter aluminum and polymer guns. The point lurking here is that more often than not, the lightweight, full-power guns highlight difficiencies in the shooter's grip. In most cases, the shooter simply needs to make minor corrections in their grip. In other cases, a shooter simply may not have the strength to control the gun.

Another small fact I'd like to point out. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL/COMPACT .45! When I realized my Glock 19 and 23 were roughly the same size as my Colt Officer's Model, I stopped carrying the Officer's Model because I'd rather have 16 rounds of 9mm or 14 rounds of .40 instead of 6 rounds of .45. But when I really want to go small, I can go to a single-stack 9mm that actually can fit in my pocket like the Kahr MK9 or PM9.

[KinnyLee]

I have a G30 and shot the G36, and I like the G30 10x better than the G36. Because of the width (or lack of force distribution), it has a snappier push than the G30.

[OverEasy]

G.C. Montgomery wrote;

"Another small fact I'd like to point out. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL/COMPACT .45!"


A Taurus PT745 is: 6.12" long, 1.125" wide, 5.2" tall and weights 20.8oz, 6+1.
That's down there with the Kel-Tec P11 and the Kahrs. Pretty compact in my book.

scooter03, you might want to to checkout a Taurus. The PT145 is about the same size, 2 oz. heavier and has a double stack mag. 10+1.

Or, you could go rent a G33 and try it, you'll forget all about .45acp

Regards, OE

[scooter03]

G.C. Montgomery wrote;

"Another small fact I'd like to point out. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL/COMPACT .45!"


A Taurus PT745 is: 6.12" long, 1.125" wide, 5.2" tall and weights 20.8oz, 6+1.
That's down there with the Kel-Tec P11 and the Kahrs. Pretty compact in my book.

scooter03, you might want to to checkout a Taurus. The PT145 is about the same size, 2 oz. heavier and has a double stack mag. 10+1.

Or, you could go rent a G33 and try it, you'll forget all about .45acp

Regards, OE

I looked at the pt145 and wow , i didnt know it existed. I like the looks of it. I looked at the g33 and it is still small like the 36. I really cant hold on to it. thanks

[G.C.Montgomery]

A Taurus PT745 is: 6.12" long, 1.125" wide, 5.2" tall and weights 20.8oz, 6+1.
That's down there with the Kel-Tec P11 and the Kahrs. Pretty compact in my book.

Um, may be I'm bad at math. The Taurus you mentioned is 0.5-inch longer, nearly an inch taller and 6 ounces heavier than either the Kel-Tec P11 or the Kahr PM9. I'll admit, the Taurus is small for a .45...but it's still longer, taller, thicker and heavier than either of the guns to which you compare it. In simple terms, you proved my point. But it still might be an option for Scooter if .45 is the only way to go.

[Landman]

I also shot a rental Glock 36, it too failed to feed a few times. I have quite a few Glocks in many different calibers and none of those have ever failed in any manner. You might want to take a look at the 45 GAP models. I have a G38 and a G39 and really enjoy them.

[j1132s]

The rental Glocks that I have seen all have too much lube in them. Maybe that's what is causing these issues?

[Landman]

It could be but I doubt it. The other Glock models can perform perfectly under almost any conditions. I think it has to do with the finger extension on the single stack magazine. All the other models are a well proven design double stack magazine. I think maybe the double stack magazines, being wider, can better handle the finger extensions.

[SW40VE]

I have a millennium pro pt145. 10+1 and it feels GOOD in my hand. Points naturally, accurate, no problems as of 500 +/- rounds, and economic ($325 out the door!). I would definitely recommend it.

[scooter03]

I have a millennium pro pt145. 10+1 and it feels GOOD in my hand. Points naturally, accurate, no problems as of 500 +/- rounds, and economic ($325 out the door!). I would definitely recommend it.

325 out the door, where, the cheapest i found was 359 before ttl. Glad to hear you have something that work and is economically priced. Now I want one.

[SW40VE]

I have a millennium pro pt145. 10+1 and it feels GOOD in my hand. Points naturally, accurate, no problems as of 500 +/- rounds, and economic ($325 out the door!). I would definitely recommend it.

325 out the door, where, the cheapest i found was 359 before ttl. Glad to hear you have something that work and is economically priced. Now I want one.

I got it at Sportsmans Warehouse in Austin (Pflugerville really), and that was for the stainless model with the Heine sights.