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Gun Control at it's Finest

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Two Texans Attacked at National Mall
Reported by Scott Lawrence
July 12, 2006 - 9:56AM
WASHINGTON (AP) _ U.S. Park Police are investigating two armed robberies of tourists on the National Mall and are looking for connections to a string of similar incidents in late May, police said.

Two women visiting from Texas were robbed at gunpoint around 10 p.m. Tuesday by two men dressed in black, said U.S. Park Police Sgt. Scott Fear. About 15 minutes later a family of four from Missouri was robbed by suspects with the same description, he said.

Though no one was injured, Fear said there were similarities to three violent attacks on the National Mall in May.

Details were not immediately released on hometowns of the victims from Texas.

So far no arrests.

"We try to prevent this from happening," Fear said. "We're going to reallocate our resources. We're going to see what improvements we can make."

The latest attacks came just hours after D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey declared a crime emergency in the city.

A high-profile killing of a British activist Sunday in the affluent Georgetown neighborhood was one of 13 homicides this month.

Robberies are up 14 percent, and armed assaults have jumped 18 percent in the past 30 days.

The tourist-friendly National Mall is usually considered safe, despite spikes in city crime. But the recent crimes against tourists have raised doubts and calls for a larger police presence.



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This is why I don't like to go places that deny my right to protect myself.
I've been fingerprinted and have passed the FBI's background check. There is no good reason why I shouldn't be allowed to take my gun ANYWHERE in this nation that I wish.
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DiverDn wrote:D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey declared a crime emergency in the city.

A high-profile killing of a British activist Sunday in the affluent Georgetown neighborhood was one of 13 homicides this month.

Robberies are up 14 percent, and armed assaults have jumped 18 percent in the past 30 days.

The tourist-friendly National Mall is usually considered safe, despite spikes in city crime. But the recent crimes against tourists have raised doubts and calls for a larger police presence.
Sure sounds like their gun ban is working! :roll: Okay, maybe it is working for the criminals. :sad:
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Paladin wrote:
DiverDn wrote:D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey declared a crime emergency in the city.

A high-profile killing of a British activist Sunday in the affluent Georgetown neighborhood was one of 13 homicides this month.

Robberies are up 14 percent, and armed assaults have jumped 18 percent in the past 30 days.

The tourist-friendly National Mall is usually considered safe, despite spikes in city crime. But the recent crimes against tourists have raised doubts and calls for a larger police presence.
Sure sounds like their gun ban is working! :roll: Okay, maybe it is working for the criminals. :sad:
I'm sure it is our fault somehow! :roll:

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Oops!
I just posted this as well (now deleted)

Ya know, I just can't say anything funny about this.

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It's the classic IF / Then statement in programming that we've all heard for years:

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns"

lets add the ELSE statement that goes along that nobody's added until now (that I know of).

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns ELSE the public can defend themselves and chase the criminals away."

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kw5kw wrote:It's the classic IF / Then statement in programming that we've all heard for years:

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns"

lets add the ELSE statement that goes along that nobody's added until now (that I know of).

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns ELSE the public can defend themselves and chase the criminals away."
What really boggles my mind is none of this should be happening at all. I am sure the Second Amendment mention my owning a gun shall not be infringed upon..... how did the Infringers do that?
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Diode wrote:
kw5kw wrote:It's the classic IF / Then statement in programming that we've all heard for years:

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns"

lets add the ELSE statement that goes along that nobody's added until now (that I know of).

"IF you outlaw guns THEN only outlaws will have guns ELSE the public can defend themselves and chase the criminals away."
What really boggles my mind is none of this should be happening at all. I am sure the Second Amendment mention my owning a gun shall not be infringed upon..... how did the Infringers do that?
Because we let them.

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Diode wrote: I'm sure it is our fault somehow! :roll:
No, it's "Bush's Fault"...at least that's what the liberals would say....everything that goes wrong is "Bush's Fault".... :headscratch
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S&W6946 wrote:
Diode wrote: I'm sure it is our fault somehow! :roll:
No, it's "Bush's Fault"...at least that's what the liberals would say....everything that goes wrong is "Bush's Fault".... :headscratch

Not all... just most. He has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment, but for a group who is so concerned about rights, I hope that everyone sees our 1st and 4th amendments going out the window. The domestic phone taps are just as bad. I am not a liberal, but a moderate. I don't like this administration but I don't blame them for limiting our right to arms.
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I DO blame them for limiting our rights to bear arms. How dare they?
There are already laws that take away gun rights from criminals. To me, that is appropriate. For the rest of us, we haven't done anything to have them removed, so why are we being penalized?
I think the gun grabbers just lump everyone they don't know into one group. They believe that anyone owning a gun is a potential criminal.
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Venus Pax wrote:I DO blame them for limiting our rights to bear arms. How dare they? I think the gun grabbers just lump everyone they don't know into one group. They believe that anyone owning a gun is a potential criminal.
They dare and do because for the most part they are elitists who believe they are beter than us. They are, again for the most part, able to afford or are afforded security that we are not offered. Also, unlike the Brady's, many have never ben faced with an immediate threat that could have been resolved by the appropriate application of force, speecifically the presence of a firearm.

I have no idea why the Brady's are not focusing on the criminals since who knows how many existing laws were broken by what's his name, much less the fact he tried to assassinate Reagan.

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anygunanywhere wrote: I have no idea why the Brady's are not focusing on the criminals since who knows how many existing laws were broken by what's his name, much less the fact he tried to assassinate Reagan.

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Recent comments from the NRA

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A few years (maybe 15 or 20) the NRA started a campaign against new gun laws. They pointed out that current gun laws weren't being enforced so why write new laws.

The campaign was so self-evident that it has been adopted by the folks that want to control illegal imigration. (Don't pass new laws until you enforce the old laws to see if they work.)


Recently I read something from the NRA recently. There has never been a study to indicate that Gun Control Laws reduce crime.

Gosh!

Afer all the gun control laws passed in all the citys, states, and countries, you'd think someone would have noticed if they had reduced crime!
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tomneal wrote:Afer all the gun control laws passed in all the citys, states, and countries, you'd think someone would have noticed if they had reduced crime!
Rebecca Peters constantly quoted statistics during her 2004 debate with Wayne LaPierre in London. Every statistic that she cited to support global small arms control was focused solely on "gun crime".

She went on and on about how gun crime has been reduced.

Wayne LaPierre, on the other hand, cited statistics on "violent crime". He pointed out, over and over, how violent crime has always risen when law abiding citizens have been disarmed.

He even went so far as to tell of all the people slaughtered with machetes, and how they would have been able to defend themselves if they'd been allowed to have guns.

Of course, the global anti-gun fanatics have been thoroughly brainwashed into believing that guns are bad when in the hands of anyone other than police and military personnel. There is no reasoning with people who have gone mad to such an extent.
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