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pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:49 pm
by JB3
When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense, :roll: I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John :???:

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm
by txinvestigator
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense, :roll: I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John :???:
Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:11 pm
by JB3
Yes I was talking about just the grip without the stock. I got one from Pachmayer for shock absorption but, it just doesn't work for me and I was wondering if there really was any advantage to them , I guess not John

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:23 pm
by Boma
Maybe get the pistol grip shotgun in a 410 gauge or 20 gauge. That would work well. =)

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:52 pm
by flintknapper
txinvestigator wrote:
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense, :roll: I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John :???:
Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.


Agreed, also makes the weapon much easier to "take away".

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:21 pm
by ElGato
flintknapper wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense, :roll: I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John :???:
Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.


Agreed, also makes the weapon much easier to "take away".
Me too, because of a bad neck I don't shoulder a shotgun even to shoot skeet, but I want that stock nestled under my arm, more control and more accurate.

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:22 pm
by lrb111
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense, :roll: I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John :???:
Mine is the 18.5 inch barrel. With the pistol grip it helps if you have a sling on the gun that goes over your shoulder. It means that you can pull down on the gun/sling combo, and get a much more solid/secure position.

It will still spin to any angle. If i had to fight may way back to my main weapon, the 12 guage Maverick would be that weapon.

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:39 pm
by Chris
in my last department, one guy qualified with his 870 with only a pistol grip. none of us thought he could do it, but he did; slugs and all from 25 yards. he did it so he could carry it on SWAT as a secondary for breeching. a folded up shotgun is handy to have loaded with those powder breeching rounds, but he didn't use it for anything other than that. he shouldered a shorty rifle for that.

if i'd known you wanted a pistol grip, i could have given you the pistol grip i bought for mine 10 years ago. it hasn't been on my shotgun in...almost 10 years now. :)

i have a maverick 88 with an ATI collapsible stock. it's far better. i like being able to shorten the length of pull when i'm wearing body armor, and the pistol grip helps take some of the recoil out of it. it's been a partner of mine for my entire career. i've carried it over department issued 870s.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:19 pm
by jbirds1210
I realize that I am the minority here, but I keep my old beat up pistol grip 12 gauge accessible in my bedroom. I have always thought of my old shotgun as a reliable friend, especially if I have a few seconds warning before the trouble starts. I paid the big price of fifty bucks for this thing in a garage sale and had a machinist shorten it up for me.

An example of this is the other night I had a gentleman standing in my driveway shouting (obviously intoxicated) to another unknown person. The man never looked toward my house, but he was standing on the very edge of my property. I did not feel immediately threatened by this man, but was unsure if his intoxicated state allowed him to think rationally. My shotgun felt good sitting next to my chair.

Unless I am in the shower or asleep I keep my handgun on me (something I could not say before becoming addicted to this forum) and keep "old betsy" nearby. I have also taken this old ugly thing along for a night in the hotel room.

I agree that aiming this thing is not easy to do, but with bird shot and very short distances such as those in my residence I feel that it is a very effective weapon. I would not trust my load past the 15-20 feet which I would need it.
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:58 am
by JB3
thanks for all the info on different platforms. I have always loved to tinker around with things and these views will give me more to experiment with. I just got a tang sight for my 62 SA 22 and am going to texas city range, and see if I can get it sighted in @ 50 yds Thank for the help John

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:35 am
by DaveT
Interesting thread.

Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?

If so, anyone know a link ?

Thanks !

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:52 am
by txinvestigator
DaveT wrote:Interesting thread.

Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?

If so, anyone know a link ?

Thanks !
I am ordering this : http://www.knoxx.com/NewStyleKnoxx/Prod ... Stock.html

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:52 am
by Tom
DaveT wrote:Interesting thread.

Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?

If so, anyone know a link ?

Thanks !
Yup. Try these guys: http://www.choatemachinetool.com/

I put one on my wife's Mossberg 500 pump to give her a better grip
and thus better control and it worked out perfectly.
I purchased it from Bushmaster at their online store but I see that they no
longer carry this item.

Kind Regards,

Tom

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:53 pm
by DaveT
Thanks for the replies.

Found what I was looking for today, ordered it a short while ago.

https://securewschent01.websitecomplete ... sp?dept=74#

Was not looking for a collapseable or fold over version, this one should work perfectly on the old Mossberg I keep by the door....... ;-)