So, you trust your centerfire semi-auto EXPLICITLY?

[JohnKSa]

If you live in the DFW, TX area, this is your chance to prove it!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=312764

This an updated version of the 1911 vs Glock grudge matches that is open to all brands of centerfire semi-autos.

To make a long story short, you show up with your gun, about 8 magazines (at least 7 rounds capacity each) and 1000 rounds of ammunition. The "match" scoring is recording malfunctions.

Once the shooting starts, no one is allowed to service their firearms in ANY way.

Sound interesting? There are still some open spots on the roster, read the thread in the link to see if you can qualify.

[nedmoore]

That would be really cool to see and hear! Post the results when you have them.

[JohnKSa]

Will do!

[longtooth]

1000 rds of factory ammo at one time these days is way too rich for my blood.
Thank you for the invite but I must stay home.

[dukalmighty]

1000 rds of factory ammo at one time these days is way too rich for my blood.
Thank you for the invite but I must stay home.

I agree 1000 rounds of 45 acp is gonna run around $300.00 or more that's more than i spend in 2 months in reloads for all my handguns.

[JohnKSa]

Reloads are not prohibited, but the use of factory ammunition is encouraged. Since this is about handgun reliability the point is to try to reduce the number of other variables involved.

[nuparadigm]

Sounds as if a corporate sponsorship wouldn't be too much out of line and necessary when considering the cost of factory ammunition. Otherwise, it'll be just a rich boys' game.

[Greybeard]

Quote:

"1000 rds of factory ammo at one time these days is way too rich for my blood."
and
"Sounds as if a corporate sponsorship wouldn't be too much out of line and necessary when considering the cost of factory ammunition."

That's what I was thinking. I've got a 10-year old Kahr K-9 back at the factory right now for the first warranty work (trigger spring hanging on bottom of frame) needed in 10+ years of being rode hard and put up wet in CHL classes. I may send an e-mail to Kahr's Marketing Honcho to see if they would like to put a new recoil spring in it, lube it as they see fit, and ship it back with at least 5 more magazines and a case of whatever brand of 9mm they think would give that puppy a chance of not getting constipated before the Glocks and 1911s begin to croak.

[Texasdoc]

here is a 1k test by Kenny Jerrett,
with a stock 1911
http://www.downrange.tv/show1/

[JohnKSa]

Otherwise, it'll be just a rich boys' game.

You can still buy 1000 rounds of 9mm for about $160 at Wal-Mart. And, as I said, reloads are not prohibited, just not considered ideal for the purposes of the match. Also, in one sense the match is a good deal for the entrants. There will be no range fees--everyone shoots for free.

All guns will finish the match unless they are disqualified for having too many malfunctions or for safety concerns. In the interest of time, we can't allow a gun to repeatedly malfunction or we'll be there for days trying to get the match finished. 10 malfunctions on a single stage or 50 for the match and you're out. Otherwise, everyone continues to the end and all malfunctions are scored.

Malfunction scoring will be descriptive, not diagnostic. In other words, the scoresheet will say WHAT happened (what KIND of malfunction) but we're not going to try to figure out WHY it happened. That's too complicated and time consuming in the middle of the match as well as too subjective.

Kenny? Perhaps Todd.

[Greybeard]

Well, Fed-Ex just delivered my K-9 with a new trigger spring. But that's it - and no reply whatsoever (yet - if ever) to my e-mail last weekend about possible sponsorship.

Oh well, that's spring turkey season, so maybe better to hope for one good shot that day than spraying and praying with 1000 ... although it does sound fun.

[DoubleJ]

here is a 1k test by Kenny Jerrett,
with a stock 1911
http://www.downrange.tv/show1/

I remember watching that, dude's gun got pretty hot! said the trigger alone would burn yer finger!

I would love to see how my Beretta would do....

or, ya'll could go out there with yer brand new whatever, put 1k rounds through it, and then it'd be broken in!

[Vic303]

JKS, a pity there is not an ammo sponsor. Have any of you 3 (DNS, you or LM) sought an ammo sponsor?

[Greybeard]

Quote: "I remember watching that ... "

I watched it too - and believe I saw a spot where he had a malfunction and it was edited. Anybuddy who's got an extra 10 minutes and 44 seconds - or whatever is was - is certainly welcome to watch it and see if they catch what I think I saw ...

[JohnKSa]

JKS, a pity there is not an ammo sponsor. Have any of you 3 (DNS, you or LM) sought an ammo sponsor?

Interesting idea. I'll broach it with DNS.

I doubt we can get something going for this year, but I'd like to see this become an annual event. I'll see about doing a nice writeup for it and circulating it to some ammo companies to see if they're interested.

...believe I saw a spot where he had a malfunction and it was edited...

I remember thinking something similar when I watched it. Even if they didn't cut out anything of import, I was still VERY disappointed that they edited the clip. It wasn't so long that it needed cuts in the middle and I thought that really detracted from the point of the exercise.