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What if you just use suppressor as a club in self defenseIn federal prosecutions, a defendant can be charged with possession of a silencer during a crime, which carries a 30-year sentence, and if the silencer is homemade and not licenced or serial numbered, persons convicted of these offenses can receive up to 10 years as well (U. S. v. Frazier, 213 F.3d 409 (7th Cir. 2000)).
too many shots fired?srothstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:13 pm I think it depends on the NFA device how much jeopardy it can put you in. For example, a silencer used on a firearm should not make any difference to the justification or use of force. But, a sawed off shotgun might be a different position. The most important possibility I can see where it makes a difference would be a fully automatic weapon. We have already seen cases where a person was justified in using deadly force, but too many shots fired made it excessive force. I would think an automatic weapon would make this much more likely. While you might justify the first shot or even two, can you justify 15 when the last three or four were after the suspect was on the ground? I am not sure if a destructive weapon, say a .700 elephant gun, would make a difference over a smaller weapon.
I've always liked the (Probably made up) anecdote about the prosecutor saying why did you shot him x times? And the response of, well when I pulled the trigger the x+1th time it just went click.powerboatr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:40 pmtoo many shots fired?srothstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:13 pm I think it depends on the NFA device how much jeopardy it can put you in. For example, a silencer used on a firearm should not make any difference to the justification or use of force. But, a sawed off shotgun might be a different position. The most important possibility I can see where it makes a difference would be a fully automatic weapon. We have already seen cases where a person was justified in using deadly force, but too many shots fired made it excessive force. I would think an automatic weapon would make this much more likely. While you might justify the first shot or even two, can you justify 15 when the last three or four were after the suspect was on the ground? I am not sure if a destructive weapon, say a .700 elephant gun, would make a difference over a smaller weapon.
didnt maya angelou shoot the intruder in the chest then in the head becasue she wanted to ensure he stayed put?
i was always taught to stop putting bullet in the bad person once they stopped having the ability to get up or move. in my case i am not a doctor, so chest, followed by head if it still moves. if i am scared and it takes 16 shots or 3 so be it
and yes DA's are a sneaky bunch and could see why did you put 3 in the bad guy questions??
very good question
[I've always liked the (Probably made up) anecdote about the prosecutor saying why did you shot him x times? And the response of, well when I pulled the trigger the x+1th time it just went click.
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Reminds me of a case quite a while back in Houstomn, where a cop shot a goblin 13 times. The joke went "heck, if he'd had 4 more rounds, he could have finished writing his name in bullets".
About the same time when the Houston police chief was asked by a reporter, who was upset to have learned that some Houston cops were armed with model 29s, why were some Houston cops carrying .44 Magnums as duty weapons. He replied "Because that's the biggest thing they can get".
Both of my primary home-defense weapons (a G17 and a SBRed AR) have a suppressor attached, and there’s a very simple explanation. Shooting a gun inside a house is freakin' LOUD!!, and I’ve already lost hearing in one ear. I really don’t want to damage my hearing any worse. Although I prefer to use a suppressor at the range, I don’t always do it because some of my rifles and most of my pistols lack either a threaded barrel or a suppressor mount.srothstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:13 pm I think it depends on the NFA device how much jeopardy it can put you in. For example, a silencer used on a firearm should not make any difference to the justification or use of force. But, a sawed off shotgun might be a different position. The most important possibility I can see where it makes a difference would be a fully automatic weapon. We have already seen cases where a person was justified in using deadly force, but too many shots fired made it excessive force. I would think an automatic weapon would make this much more likely. While you might justify the first shot or even two, can you justify 15 when the last three or four were after the suspect was on the ground? I am not sure if a destructive weapon, say a .700 elephant gun, would make a difference over a smaller weapon.
