From 1911 to Glock to...CZ

[JSThane]

An original short-rail has been on my "list" for quite some time, but those're rarer than hen's teeth, it seems.

Well, I'll be honest, I want to stumble across one in a pawn shop, marked at normal CZ 75B "used" price. I think I have better luck winning a small lottery pot, though, and I've never bought a ticket.

[boxermoose]

I don't think I could ever transition to a thumb safety.

The thumb safety is defiantly not Yazuka friendly

[JSThane]

My dad bought one of those in 1977 in South Africa. Wasn't but a few years later that CZ lengthened the rail to what we know now - there were reports of frames cracking and it was apparently to resolve that.

The front sights were also prone to coming loose under medium to extended fire; just a skinny pin swaged into the slide used to snap off, and I shot my dad's sight loose as well as my own (I had a non-short rail, but it had the same style sight).

The improvements they made from 85 onward were worthwhile - roll-pinned front sight, etc. They're (IMO) better guns than the originals were, although I can understand the hankering for something rare.

They probably are, and I would shoot the short-rail with standard-pressure ball ammo only, most likely. The stainless 75B I already have would be what I'd carry. But the scarcity of the short-rail, combined with the fact that it was "the first CZ 75," are what draw me to it, much like an original M1911 (pre-A1) won't be "as good" a pistol as a modern gun from any of several manufacturers, but it's still quite collectible for the sheer fact that it was the first of the breed.

[The Annoyed Man]

I don't know much about CZs, although I am aware of the way the slide rails are different. But other than that, isn't the CZ basically a Browning Highpower?

[JSThane]

I don't know much about CZs, although I am aware of the way the slide rails are different. But other than that, isn't the CZ basically a Browning Highpower?

Not at all. There are a few visual similarities, but that's about it. The CZ (as originally made) is a DA/SA, with the entire trigger mechanism contained within the frame. The High Power is a SAO and uses a "toggle" (not sure of the correct term) located on the underside of the slide to connect the trigger with the sear (and so cannot be dry-fired with the slide removed). High Powers also come standard with a magazine disconnect, which CZs lack. And finally, as you said, the CZ's rails are internal to the frame, while the High Power's are external.

While the CZ 75 is a fair conceptual descendant of the High Power, there's not much they have in common mechanically, aside from the modified Browning-style delayed-blowback action.

[The Annoyed Man]

That's odd.... I've seen plenty of DA/SA High Powers. Here is an ad for one: http://www.gunsamerica.com/911405445/FN ... Sights.htm

[74novaman]

The CZ75 series is nothing like the BHP, and Browning only came out with a DA Hi-power in the mid-80s or so, hoping to capitalize on the then-craze for crunchenticker Wondernines.

And this one isn't a traditional CZ, since it lacks the double action.

I've owned a BHP clone (FEG built). It was okay, but it's trigger, accuracy and recoil were all inferior to this gun. I've traded away the BHP, but I'm loving this one. Don't see myself ever getting rid of it unless it turns out to be unreliable.

[ghostrider]

That's odd.... I've seen plenty of DA/SA High Powers. Here is an ad for one: http://www.gunsamerica.com/911405445/FN ... Sights.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's not what us BHP 'traditionalists' would call a 'real' Hi Power, which single action only, the way God, John Browning, and Diedonne Saive intended :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bmwrdr]

Picked up a new pistol today and immediately took it to the range.

I'm a fan. Give it a few months of shooting and it just might replace my G19 as a EDC gun.

Maybe.

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My all time favorite for many years and at least 20,000 rounds.

[bmwrdr]

I have several CZ's, nice choice. Mine are a bit larger and heaver then I prefer for EDC.. but to each his own.
The first I acquired was while I was a young Soldier in Germany and imported to the US by me.
CZ75 9010 (Pre B) Combat Competition special Customized by Frankonia in Germany.
Then there is my Pre B 75, Post B 75 and CZ-75 SP01,.. Did I mention I like the CZ 9mm platform ???

Yeah, I was in Germany too during cold war times. Every German soldier was complaining about the fact that the communists had a better hand gun (the CZ 75 and later the 75B) than the German part of the NATO using Walther P38 (P1 at the Bundeswehr.)
Keep the CZ75 9010 in the safe and shoot the newer ones.

[E.Marquez]

Keep the CZ75 9010 in the safe and shoot the newer ones.

18 years and 24,600 rounds (yes each round of each gun is tracked) late for that decision
It's been carried in Panama as a side arm, and every state I've ever been in since 1987.
I own but one safe queen (want to buy it?) All of my weapons are shooters, some shot more then others (.338 WIN MAG is not cheap) but all have been and will be used regularly.
My Avatar , that's the 9010

[The Annoyed Man]

That's odd.... I've seen plenty of DA/SA High Powers. Here is an ad for one: http://www.gunsamerica.com/911405445/FN ... Sights.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's not what us BHP 'traditionalists' would call a 'real' Hi Power, which single action only, the way God, John Browning, and Diedonne Saive intended :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well now I know. I honestly had no idea.