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You need to try your hand at the Beretta PX4 in .40. Its a sweet platform and is customizable to fit the shooters hand. The felt recoil is comparable to a 9mm due to the rotating barrel design. I love mine.Geister wrote:I really like the .40 but I haven't found a platform for it yet that I like. I picked the .45 because I really like the design of the 1911.
I'd drink to that. I'd take a .357 Magnum over a .45 acp, but the reason I'd prefer to carry a .45 acp is because, to me, the .357 Magnum is too loud and produces too much muzzle flash as a concealed carry weapon.TX Rancher wrote: In my mind, by its very nature, a pistol represents a trade off. As I stated in an earlier post, I rather have a rifle and relegate the pistol to backup. Some people draw the line at 38, some pick 9mil, others go 40, and a lot of folks opt for 45. But there are harder hitting pistol rounds then all of those, so why stop at 45? It just comes down to where the individual draws the line between size, recoil, and perceived situations.
No, but I'd say overall it's a more successful man stopper than the 9mm.txinvestigator wrote:
A .45 is not a magic man stopper.
Actually there are a lot of holsters out now. Comp-Tac can make almost any of their holsters for it. Tucker Gun leather makes a few. Blade-Tech has some kydex ones. And if you like exotic leathers, take a look a age-ranger's sharkskin setup from Rafter S.:longtooth wrote:+1 +1 +1 for kauboy. That was the Christmas present my wife wanted. She loves it, Mom does too, (got to get another one now.) & if I leave a 1911 platform that will be my first try.
Hers is a 9mm but the .40 is the same frame. I have held one but not shot it. The only thing I dont like about it is the rail & that makes for not many holsters yet. That is cosmetic. Just like traditional lines. Spell that 1911, Ruger Redhawk, or S&W 66.
It wont be long until there are some good holsters out for it also though.
Good post Chris.Chris wrote:depends on how you tell the story, and what details you know. i know of a few multi-shot suicides. usually those are to the chest. one i recall was done with a newly purchased colt .45. she fired twice to the chest.G.C.Montgomery wrote: O'Donnell then shot himself twice with the handgun that investigators believe was used in the rape.
i worked one where a guy put the barrel to the roof of his mouth and fired. it was a full-house .357 magnum round. it didn't clear the skull. in fact, it looked like one side of his face shifted up some. very odd thing to see, and an image i'll likely not forget anytime soon, even though this happened 10 years ago. there was a clean hole in the roof of the mouth, and a lot of the teeth were destroyed; likely from recoil and muzzle blast. bleeding was just massive. guy is still alive today.
one guy was intending on killing his girlfriend, then himself. after seeing that it took 3 head shots to completely finish her off, he felt it wasn't as clean as he'd liked, and changed his mind to do the same to himself.
i've seen crime scene photos of point blank head shots from a shotgun that just peel the skin off. if you want to get the job done, a 7mm magnum is the way to go. very little left after that.
while this may sound morbid, it goes along with what's being discussed. bullets are little tiny objects. 115 to 230 grains is not a lot of mass. pistol bullets travel far slower than rifle bullets. a tiny little object can easily be deflected. consider the difference in velocity from a rifle and pistol though. i could definitely see how a bullet could lodge in a skull and not penetrate.
we fired through car windshields once. shooting from outside in, the bullets deflect up. this is laminated glass where a bullet should conceivably zip right through, but there is just enough pressure behind the glass to deflect the bullet up a few inches from the windshield to the headrest. shooting from outside in, it's the exact opposite; bullet deflects down. in doing this, a variety of windshields were used, and several pistol calibers, shotguns, and .223 rifles were used. all had the same results. that tiny rake in the windshield deflects the bullets.
what's my point? i will continue to carry my 9mm because i know i can hit exactly what i'm aiming at. i don't care if it goes through, or if it lodges in your head, so long as whatever is being done against me stops immediately. 9mm is my favorite pistol caliber, and will continue to be.
Nice red X's.nitrogen wrote:OK, this thread is somewhat dead, so first, apologies for resurrecting it.
I wanted to post two pictures that I had sitting on a site that has been down for a few weeks. These are 2 pictures giving the relative size differences between common handgun ammo, both unexpanded and expanded.
