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my sig magazine looks like the bottom one. I bought some colt mustang mags for $17 on midway. While they are a little different, they work, but they are backup mags only. Does your P238 stovepipe a lot on the last round? Mine seems to do that quite a bit now, as well as eat the brass up. I look at the spent shell and its all bent up for some reason. Just thought I'd ask. :???:
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E150GT wrote:my sig magazine looks like the bottom one. I bought some colt mustang mags for $17 on midway. While they are a little different, they work, but they are backup mags only. Does your P238 stovepipe a lot on the last round? Mine seems to do that quite a bit now, as well as eat the brass up. I look at the spent shell and its all bent up for some reason. Just thought I'd ask. :???:
You mean like this?

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The Colt Mustang mags work, but they are known to fail to eject on the last round in the P238. That's why Sig changed their follower design. I have just been informed (on the Sig forum) that the follower design on my malfunctioning mag is the same as the Mustang follower, and was probably old stock from Sig, as the Mustang follower design is no longer used by them.

The only failures to eject I have had were with the new mag I bought locally. It ejected but caught in the ejector port, and got the case bent several times in 50 rds. I have a little over 300 rounds through the gun at this time. One thing about the P238 is the notorious short life of the recoil spring. Many have changed to the 12lb Mustang spring from Wolff Springs. I ordered two. You might try one if you have a significant number of rounds thru your 238 (over 4-500) and see if that helps. I agree though that the reviews of all 3 types of P238 mags are a mixed bag.

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G26ster wrote:
E150GT wrote:my sig magazine looks like the bottom one. I bought some colt mustang mags for $17 on midway. While they are a little different, they work, but they are backup mags only. Does your P238 stovepipe a lot on the last round? Mine seems to do that quite a bit now, as well as eat the brass up. I look at the spent shell and its all bent up for some reason. Just thought I'd ask. :???:
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The Colt Mustang mags work, but they are known to fail to eject on the last round in the P238. That's why Sig changed their follower design. I have just been informed (on the Sig forum) that the follower design on my malfunctioning mag is the same as the Mustang follower, and was probably old stock from Sig, as the Mustang follower design is no longer used by them.

The only failures to eject I have had were with the new mag I bought locally. It ejected but caught in the ejector port, and got the case bent several times in 50 rds. I have a little over 300 rounds through the gun at this time. One thing about the P238 is the notorious short life of the recoil spring. Many have changed to the 12lb Mustang spring from Wolff Springs. I ordered two. You might try one if you have a significant number of rounds thru your 238 (over 4-500) and see if that helps. I agree though that the reviews of all 3 types of P238 mags are a mixed bag.
Where did you buy the springs? My sig has about 500 rounds through it. It does not stove pipe on all rounds, but usually just the last one.
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Have 2 P238s and 5 colt mags for use in them along with the factory mags. Had the last round stovepipe problem with the colt mags. Compared the colt followers with the factory mags and saw that there was an angle difference in the followers. Pulled the followers out and changed the angle on the front piece of the follower. Problem solved and all work now as well as the factory ones with no loading and no ejection problems at all. Can't remember which way I bent the follower on the colts but you might give that a try.
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E150GT wrote: Where did you buy the springs? My sig has about 500 rounds through it. It does not stove pipe on all rounds, but usually just the last one.
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I bought 2 Colt Mustang 12lb springs

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Sidro wrote:Have 2 P238s and 5 colt mags for use in them along with the factory mags. Had the last round stovepipe problem with the colt mags. Compared the colt followers with the factory mags and saw that there was an angle difference in the followers. Pulled the followers out and changed the angle on the front piece of the follower. Problem solved and all work now as well as the factory ones with no loading and no ejection problems at all. Can't remember which way I bent the follower on the colts but you might give that a try.
weird, mine was stovepiping a lot last time at the range, but I was only using the factory mag...
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E150GT wrote: weird, mine was stovepiping a lot last time at the range, but I was only using the factory mag...
Look at the followers on these two mags. They are BOTH Sig P238 factory mags. If your mag that is stovepiping has a follower that looks like the one on the right, it's a Sig copy of the Mustang mag that Sig originally put out with the P238. They no longer supply this mag for the very reasons you are experiencing. So, look at the profile (not down from the top) and if your mag that is causing problems has a follower that looks like the one on the right, it will continue to do so. If so, I would contact Sig and get an RA to send that mag in and swap it for a later model.

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