Groceries for guns

[RPB]

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Gonna have another within 6 months, I may have to be at that event
(SIA, I looked for White Stetson in the Video, only saw a black one, maybe next time you'll get on TV )

I liked that part of the video where the Officer points at one pistol and says "That could hide in a front pocket, no one would know it was there"
Apparently advertising something like a Davis as being good for concealed carry?

I'm wondering about that guy who admitted on TV that he sold his brother's guns ... if his brother can now get them back from the police, or if he needs to sue his brother for the actual value of the guns, or if he can file a police report on the "missing guns" and get them back? .... I doubt his brother's homeowner's insurance would pay, but what if he filed a stolen property police report now, I guess since it was "no questions asked" they'd have to investigate? Wonder if they'd return the "stolen guns" to the rightful owner? Does the brother get to keep the money from the police after they are returned to the rightful owner, his brother? ... interesting.

I wonder if after the investigation, the DA would accept criminal charges against the brother selling someone else's property, since he made an admission against interest publicly on TV, I'd guess that video would be admissible as evidence.

[KaProw]

I was there, standing behind SIA. Got there at 9:10-ish there was already a huge line. We waited about 2.5hrs or so. The clouds came out so it wasn't too bad. They ran out of money a couple of times and had to run for more. They didn't expect the massive turn out and ended up having to open up the church for bathroom breaks and supplied water.

Mostly broken junk was being swapped. Although I did see a surprising number of sawed off shotguns; some even had electrical tape on the cut down stocks. Also saw a lot of BB guns, I even had one to trade. I did see a few elderly people trading in some stuff. The guy behind us in line had 4-5 rifles and box of hand guns. All of it was broken trash. He was also buying stuff from other people in line. They eventually started limiting people to two items. Someone with a badge (but no uniform) came down the line and was paring single item people with multiple item people.

Everyone I talked too was pleasant. Chief Acevedo showed up in plain clothes for a brief time. Some of the attending officers didn’t recognize him until someone in line mentioned it.

I find it interesting that none of the news stories mention the person across the street protesting. A guy was standing on the corner with a sign and a bull horn. He was shouting about crime in the area and giving up gun rights and such. He should have come down the line and looked what was being turned in. I’d bet 80% had other guns at home and were headed out to buy new functional firearms with the funds.

[A-R]

Thanks for the report, that's what I expected - junk guns. I REALLY want someone to take a photo of themselves using their VISA gift card to buy a new gun and send it to Acevedo .... can't believe how dense these people are to think that this will reduce crime in any way.

[PappaGun]

.... can't believe how dense these people are to think that this will reduce crime in any way.

and that says it all.

it's almost bizarre, no, it IS bizarre.

like x-files bizarre.

[tacticool]

Thanks for the report, that's what I expected - junk guns. I REALLY want someone to take a photo of themselves using their VISA gift card to buy a new gun and send it to Acevedo .... can't believe how dense these people are to think that this will reduce crime in any way.

Someone who got the card should thank them for doing a Cash for Clunkers program for guns.

[RPB]

Thanks for the report, that's what I expected - junk guns. I REALLY want someone to take a photo of themselves using their VISA gift card to buy a new gun and send it to Acevedo .... can't believe how dense these people are to think that this will reduce crime in any way.

Someone who got the card should thank them for doing a Cash for Clunkers program for guns.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

KaProw posted the gist of what happened at the gun buyback.

The APD was true to its word and did not ask for any DL or CHL
information. So if they have another one, I would advise all forum
members to carry away and don't worry about it. They didn't even
question the 3 or 4 guys who brought in the sawed off shotties, so
they have no interest in hassling anyone.

Let me say also that although most of the guns were junky
single shot .22 rifles, shotguns, and such, there was a person
just a few in front of us who turned in a very nice looking Colt
.32 pistol that looked GREAT. It may have had issues, and it
was a mouse gun, but it was in superb condition.

Due to my USA flag shirt and my white Stetson, I was interviewed
by 2 reporters and they took still photos and video of me.

"The Daily Texan" reporter asked very little and put it down in his
memo pad. His photographer was a woman who asked where I got
my Texas flag shirt. I pointed out that there was more than 1 star
on the shirt, so this was a USA flag shirt. She laughed and took
multiple still photos of me from a variety of angles.

A reporter from The Austin Free Press asked me for an interview and
recorded me on video. The way he posed his questions seemed "fair
and balanced" so I wasn't sure if he was an anti or a 2A friend.

I looked upon this video interview as a chance to come off as a reasonable
2A advocate, but it was nerve wracking to try not come off as rambling
on too long, while trying to give the reporter a chance to ask another followup
question. I promoted our forum's website address and advocated that all
gun owners should join the NRA in order to protect our 2A rights.

After the camera was off and the interview was over, I asked him his stance
on 2A. He replied that he had a Glock 17 and was definitely a 2A friend.
His Nissan Maxima had a variety of bumper stickers advocating freedom issues
and 2A rights.

He is supposed to send me an email that will notify me that the video is up
on his site: http://www.theaustinfreepress.com

I will update y'all if he comes through with this.

While I was at the last table getting my $100 Visa debit card, usable anyplace,
the radio transmissions to the APD officers at the table advised them that a
certain gun that was turned in WAS listed as a stolen weapon. No further idea
as to what happened next.

The event was scheduled from 9AM to 3 PM. The friendly APD officer who stayed
near us and chatted with us for a long time said people started showing up at 7AM
and he had to call in backup more quickly to help him out.

Since they will be doing this again and the money's better than some other PD's
pay for broken weapons we have to ask ourselves:

Where can I find a bunch of junky guns to turn into real money?

One of your onscene reporters, SIA

[A-R]

Hey SIA, are you the "Ernie" quoted in this story?

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... 99-success" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[O6nop]

I'm wondering if they will do this again, I remember a drive the city organized last year or so to collect hazardous materials at a conveniently located remote location at a high school in Austin near Steck and Mesa. It was well received also and there were so many people wanting and needing to drop off their old paint, used motor oil and other unidentifiable liquids, that the lines of traffic extended over a mile and was backing up traffic on MoPac. People were impatient and instead of waiting hours to get to the drop off, they were setting their materials on the side of the road to be picked up later. They said that they would do this every 6 months because they shuddered to think that the alternative would be that these chemicals could end up in the storm sewers, streams and rivers.

My point is, they may realize it's too much hassle and not do it again. I hope they do, I couldn't make the gun buy because my kid graduated high school that day . Another thing is the money was generated from donations only (no tax money, supposedly). I wonder if all the donors knew their money would go for this purpose and if they'll continue to donate. Or, if the APD thinks it was a success, will they justify using tax money the next time.

[A-R]

And if the donations paid the police officers salaries, or did they have to volunteer their time to suck up to their Kalifornia-learned boss?

[surprise_i'm_armed]

austinrealtor:

Yes, that was me in the article you asked about above
in the thread.

I find it interesting that Mr. Crain got rid of a shotgun
that a burglar almost got, then at the very end of the
piece he said if there's another buyback his guns will be
in that one too.

If he's got a burglar problem he should keep at least one
handgun on him at all times. That way no firearms can
be stolen from his residence, and he has a way to bestow
his own Darwin Award on the guy who comes in the window. :-)

Per that "Daily Texan" article you were swift enough to find,
I did the math on the guns turned in by 1130 AM:

2 Assault rifles @ $200 = $400
166 handguns @ $50 = $8,300
96 rifles @ $100 = $9,600
79 shotguns @ $100 = $7,900

Total by 1130 AM = $26,200.

The gun buyback's initial infusion of cash was $8,000.
The gun buyback spent $26,200 by 1130 AM.
Final figure paid out by the program, IIRC, was $30,000.

Effect on crime - Negligible, if any.

On a side note, I love the way the gun buyback folks had to
PC this program up to make it palatable to their own people:

"Guns for groceries" was in some of the press releases.
Well, keep in mind that we who turned in broken crap were
paid in Visa debit cards, which don't have to be used for
groceries - they can be used for anything, including new firearms!

SIA

[KD5NRH]

"Guns for groceries" was in some of the press releases.
Well, keep in mind that we who turned in broken crap were
paid in Visa debit cards, which don't have to be used for
groceries - they can be used for anything, including new firearms!

We should make some authentic-looking "cash for clunker guns" posters emphasizing this aspect, and have them ready to fill out with dates, times and locations, and be ready post them around town as soon as one is announced. Bonus points for actually pasting them over the real announcements.

[O6nop]

Hopefully, no one discourages this program until I get my junkers "sold" off.
Personally, as long as it's not my tax dollars, I'm neither for or against this program. Last thing I want is for people who don't want guns to have guns. They obviously aren't securing them, based on some of the comments in the paper and TV news. They are in closets and under beds probably with ammo nearby. But it hurts to know valuable guns are being brought in to be apparently destroyed, too.