Baretta 92fs

[propellerhead]

I'd love to have one for its military history, just like I'd love to have an USGI 1911 and an M-16. :)

[Chris]

20 years ago under rigorous military testing a few EARLY models had slide problems. They fixed it, big deal.

yea, they're so unreliable.



May 15, 2006

BERETTA 9mm PISTOLS PASS SEVEN CONSECUTIVE MILITARY TESTS WITH RECORD PERFORMANCE

Deliveries ahead of schedule on contracts for over 34,000 pistols to U.S. Military

Accokeek, Md. - Beretta USA has passed a seventh consecutive military test for delivery of the Beretta 9mm Model 92FS pistols to the U.S. Army (military designated M9).

In late 2005, the U.S. Army, on its own behalf and on behalf of other branches of the Armed Forces, such as the U.S. Air Force, placed contracts with Beretta U.S.A. to buy new Beretta 9mm 92FS pistols and parts. These contracts also allow the U.S. Military the option to buy up to a total of 70,000 92FS/M9 pistols through 2010. Formal testing of the newly ordered pistols began in early 2006.

"The results of the new tests are outstanding," noted E. Scott Blackwell, Beretta U.S.A.'s Division Manager - Manufacturing & Vice President, Law Enforcement/Defense Group. "When Beretta pistols were ordered by the Armed Forces throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s, they averaged one malfunction in every 17,500 rounds fired, which was believed at the time to be a world record for reliability in a semiautomatic pistol. These new pistols, which are mostly comprised of standard, off-the-shelf parts, are breaking that record. During government witnessed testing of these new pistols, we have averaged only one malfunction every 21,000 rounds fired."

Beretta USA has been continuously manufacturing the 92FS/M9 pistols since 1988 at its U.S. headquarters in Accokeek, Maryland. “All 325 employees here in our Maryland facility where the pistols are manufactured, assembled and tested, are proud to continue to provide this sidearm to our American military personnel� stated Blackwell.

The US made 92FS/M9 pistol has been purchased and deployed worldwide by thousands of law enforcement and military agencies and services worldwide, including most recently the Iraqi Ministry of Defense, Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department and, in its advanced M9A1 configuration with integral light rail and, enhanced tactical features, the US Marine Corps.

[Rugrash]

I always love the irony of how Berettas as well as some other manufacturers (Kimber, etc) are produced in anti-gun states.

-Rug

[KRM45]

I went back to the Academy today and bought the Ruger P97.

I bougt this gun to use at the range only, and for experimenting with my reloaded ammo. I've only been reloading for a while, and I've heard enough stories about possible damage to your firearm from improperly reloaded amo that I wanted a cheap .45 to experiment with. I figured a Ruger in .45 ACP for $318 was just what I needed.

By the way, they sold the last Beretta as I was standing there. They were new, but they all apparently had some type of "blemish" on them.

[Chris]

I went back to the Academy today and bought the Ruger P97.

I bougt this gun to use at the range only, and for experimenting with my reloaded ammo. I've only been reloading for a while, and I've heard enough stories about possible damage to your firearm from improperly reloaded amo that I wanted a cheap .45 to experiment with. I figured a Ruger in .45 ACP for $318 was just what I needed.

i don't think you have to worry about blowing up a ruger. i had a P90 and it was built like an 18th century boat anchor. i'm going to have to get another one of these days.

[HighVelocity]

I went to my local Academy to check it out today and yes, they were some kind of blemish guns, had an upside down Y next to the serial number. BUT, the one I handled looked brand spankin new.

[KBCraig]

I went back to the Academy today and bought the Ruger P97.

It's not a traditional concealed carry sidearm, but it's what I carry concealed every day. KP97DC in a Fobus paddle.

I bougt this gun to use at the range only, and for experimenting with my reloaded ammo. I've only been reloading for a while, and I've heard enough stories about possible damage to your firearm from improperly reloaded amo that I wanted a cheap .45 to experiment with. I figured a Ruger in .45 ACP for $318 was just what I needed.

Like Chris said, you don't have to worry about blowing it up, unless you pack the case full of C4.

Just by the by, I paid $260 for my P97 in 1999, from Bachmann Pawn & Gun in Dallas. They were recommended to me on the newsgroup tx.guns, and I've kept tabs on them since then. It seems they're still among the best places in DFW to get a rock-bottom price. I recommend stopping by if you you're shopping in the Metroplex.

Kevin

[Glockamolie]

Does anyone here actually think the 92FS is not a good gun?

I have limited underwhelming experience with one. Here's a good read:

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm

20 years ago under rigorous military testing a few EARLY models had slide problems. They fixed it, big deal.

If you read the whole article , you'd see that it wasn't trashing the Beretta. The last two paragraphs:

"After the initial bugs were worked out, the M9 pistol developed into a reliable combat proven weapon. Most current/former military personnel that I have been privileged to speak with while researching this article have stated a general satisfaction with the weapon’s reliability while citing the concerns about the size, weight and caliber that I have mentioned already. It has saved the lives of soldiers, law enforcement officers and civilians alike over the years. It remains today an accurate and reliable weapon suitable for personal defense. Few military sidearms have proven themselves to be as good a weapon as the M9 has turned out to be, despite the gun shop gossip to the contrary.

It remains worthy of our consideration when choosing a weapon. "

[txinvestigator]

Does anyone here actually think the 92FS is not a good gun?

I have limited underwhelming experience with one. Here's a good read:

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm

20 years ago under rigorous military testing a few EARLY models had slide problems. They fixed it, big deal.

If you read the whole article , you'd see that it wasn't trashing the Beretta. The last two paragraphs:

"After the initial bugs were worked out, the M9 pistol developed into a reliable combat proven weapon. Most current/former military personnel that I have been privileged to speak with while researching this article have stated a general satisfaction with the weapon’s reliability while citing the concerns about the size, weight and caliber that I have mentioned already. It has saved the lives of soldiers, law enforcement officers and civilians alike over the years. It remains today an accurate and reliable weapon suitable for personal defense. Few military sidearms have proven themselves to be as good a weapon as the M9 has turned out to be, despite the gun shop gossip to the contrary.

It remains worthy of our consideration when choosing a weapon. "

I read it. I have read it MANY times. Evertime someone wants to make a point about Berettas, they point to that article. My comment is valid and stands. Big Deal.