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I own a 22, and shoot with it when i shoot the .40, so i'm a decent shot with it. I knwo what you mean by the basics. It needs to be muscle memory.

Looks like scheduling is not going to be in my favor, so I have to postpone my class. oh well more time for practice I guess.

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Here are two old posts detailing the class and shooting requirements:

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... php?t=1460
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... php?t=1985

I don't think you could easily fail the shooting portion, but if your uncomfortable by all means postpone till you can get enough practice. Just don't allow yourself to get cold feet.
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fadlan12,

Next time you get out to the range practice dry firing.

Do 10 dry fire shots at your target (at 21ft or whatever your going for). Your goal is to get a smooth trigger pull while keeping the sights on target.

Then load a magazine and shoot a magazine of live ammo.

Repeat your dry fire/live fire combo as much as you can.

I think you will see improvement quickly.

I've taught no-shooters to shoot reasonably well in very short order with this method.

You'll probably learn more from the dry fire part than the live fire part, but both are important.
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To dry fire or not to dry fire... that is the question.

I hear so many people say: "Never dry fire a weapon, it will ruin the firing pin."

I hear others say: "Practice by dry firing."

NOW I'm so confused.

:roll:

Which is right?

My S&W 66 it was a NO! NO! to dry fire.

My XD-9 says it's ok to dry fire.

I"M really CONFUSED!
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kw5kw wrote:To dry fire or not to dry fire... that is the question.

Which is right? :roll:
Both actually, Depends on the firearm. Correct on the XD's ( I have a couple so I asked too) BUT the book on my Kel-Tec 9mm says DO NOT DRYFIRE! So I went to Carters Country and got me some Snap-Caps so I can dry fire it. I was told it won't hurt my Springer 1911 or my Baby Eagle. SO my view is check your owners manual. Some of the old timers can explain why it hurts some of the guns, mostly the older ones. Hope that helps,

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evil_smurf wrote:dry firing a gun that has a hammer is bad. it will ruin the components of that hammer etc.

dry firing a striker-fire gun is okay (such as the XD, Glock, etc). it does not have a hammer, but uses small pins inside of the gun to strike the bullet. theres nothing there to ruin it.

that should be the correct answer ;)
Both my 1911 and Desert Eagle have Hammers but more than one person has told me dry fire the heck out of them. :willynilly: The only thing I am picky about is not releasing the slide lock on an empty magazine.
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It's been my impression that, with the exception of rimfires, it's fine to dry fire most modern firearms. Even some rim fires are ok to dry fire, such as the Ruger single six because of the recessed chambers. In any case I dry fire just about all of my guns and have a for a while. I've never had any issues, yet.

As for your shooting. One thing that has helped me is start slowly at the beginning of the shooting session. I usually start by loading one round in the magazine. The lets you concentrate on that shot without any concern for the next shot. After about 20 shots in the manner I start loading 2 rounds, then 3 and so on. This is a slow process but it has helped improved my shooting tremendously.

Some of the CHL instructors here can tell you not to worry about the test. I'm sure they've seen thier share of people take the test who hardly knew which end the bullet come out. Most of us were nervous the first time taking the test. You'll do fine.
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Every gun is different. As always check the manual.

The gun in question is an H&K. So limited dry firing on an emtpy chamber is fine.

If you do extensive dry firing you should get a 'snap cap' to protect the firing pin.

My H&K has done thousands of dry fires. Most before I got snap caps.
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Get snap caps. then dry fire.

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evil_smurf wrote:dry firing a gun that has a hammer is bad. it will ruin the components of that hammer etc.

dry firing a striker-fire gun is okay (such as the XD, Glock, etc). it does not have a hammer, but uses small pins inside of the gun to strike the bullet. theres nothing there to ruin it.

that should be the correct answer ;)
S&W revolvers have hammers, and they have floating firing pins. Dry fire all day, no problems. I have an old late 60's model 10 that has been dry fired thousands of times.

They are weapons, for crying out loud. :biggrinjester:
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txinvestigator wrote:They are weapons, for crying out loud. :biggrinjester:
If your going to start using logic and reason around here I'm leaving.
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Diode wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:They are weapons, for crying out loud. :biggrinjester:
If your going to start using logic and reason around here I'm leaving.
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oops. :angel:
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Diode wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:They are weapons, for crying out loud. :biggrinjester:
If your going to start using logic and reason around here I'm leaving.
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How dare you, txi! :leaving
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A good article on the fundamentals of marksmanship:


http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... rksmanship
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