Prior suspension of 2nd Amendment Rights questions

[lunchbox]

all in all it would seem that there is no hope
common sence is well not so common anymore and the day of the good ole boy has passed

[centex aggie]

all in all it would seem that there is no hope
common sence is well not so common anymore and the day of the good ole boy has passed

and it will get worse before it gets better especially if the dems get that 70 person lead in the House

[amber]

But in case you are right, I will now use the thread to point out that all those absolutist assertions about the 2A are a mass of legal and constitutional baloney. That they are supported by no court , constitutional scholars, or case law. Nor will they ever be supported by any court, constitutional scholar or case law. And the reason for that is that, like all other "unlimited" rights, they lead to absurd conclusions that society would never want and would never support. (I'm just waiting for the 2A to reach its "correct" status. I want to set up a string of vending machines selling MP-5's at the loading gates of our major airports.

Thank you for being the voice of reason and saying why we need stronger controls on assault weapons.

What exactly is an assault weapon? I've never seen one of those.

You're not looking hard enough. I see them at every gun show.

[srothstein]

What exactly is an assault weapon? I've never seen one of those.

You're not looking hard enough. I see them at every gun show.

I sincerely doubt it. I have never yet seen any automatic weapons at any gun shows. Given the approximately six month delay that it takes for ATF to approve the transfer, they are not going to sell too many at traveling gun shows. And given the $20,000 price for each (my personal estimate of the average), I sincerely doubt that you will find too many buyers at a gun show where they are looking for bargains.

And before you jump in with the mythical gun show loophole, assault weapons (automatic firearms) require ATF approval and a background check before they can be transferred, even if it is a face to face between two individuals.

[mr surveyor]

never have a battle of wits with the unarmed!

[boomerang]

I sincerely doubt it. I have never yet seen any automatic weapons at any gun shows. Given the approximately six month delay that it takes for ATF to approve the transfer, they are not going to sell too many at traveling gun shows. And given the $20,000 price for each (my personal estimate of the average), I sincerely doubt that you will find too many buyers at a gun show where they are looking for bargains.

I stopped going to gun shows because of the 30.06 nonsense but I used to see Class 3 dealers at the big shows in Houston. They always had huge "DO NOT TOUCH!" signs but it was fun looking at what they brought.

[CHL/LEO]

I sincerely doubt it. I have never yet seen any automatic weapons at any gun shows.

Steve, there's usually one or two Class 3 dealers with full-auto weapons at the Dallas Market Hall shows.

[jimlongley]

What exactly is an assault weapon? I've never seen one of those.

You're not looking hard enough. I see them at every gun show.

I'm with KC5AV, I have been to a lot of gun shows, and have seen all manner of guns including class three, but have yet to see any assault weapons.

Perhaps, Amber, you meant your comment as subtle irony, or have you fallen prey to media/political hype and believe that there is actually some such thing?

The term "assault weapon" has no strict standard defintion, unlike assault rifle, submachine gun, machine pistol, or machine gun, it is a term coined by unknown persons, most likely the brady bunch, in response to outcry by those who know better against the constant description of certain firearms as assault rifles.

Whoever coined the term just chose one with enough pejorative nuance to put fear into the hearts of the unknowing and never bothered, probably by design, to provide an adequate definition. Without said definition the users of the phrase can call anything an assault weapon and no one can hold them responsible for their words - so a black military looking pistol becomes an "ASSAULT WEAPON" as does a semi-automatic (doesn't fit the definition of assault rifle) version of a current or past military gun.

The term's amorphous nature makes it virtually useless for anything beyond rabble rousers trying to stir emotional responses among the unknowing ("Save society, outlaw assault weapons") and is hardly a suitable part of a gun owner's lexicon, except for re-education of those who have fallen prey to the hype.

[/rant]

[mr surveyor]

I have a feeling that our young poster is not as naieve as she may appear to be.

[Mike1951]

I have a feeling that our young poster is not as naieve as she may appear to be.

Nothing but a troll!!

[lunchbox]

I have a feeling that our young poster is not as naieve as she may appear to be.

Nothing but a troll!!

someone please explain as i am lost as to what you are talking about

[Darwood]

I have a feeling that our young poster is not as naieve as she may appear to be.

Nothing but a troll!!

someone please explain as i am lost as to what you are talking about

Internet Troll

The term is thought to come from the act of "trolling for suckers".

[Mike1951]

A troll is someone who joins a forum or list only to cause trouble and dissention.

From her posts, Amber shares little of what this list is about.

She could possibly be naively ignorant regarding RKBA and I think that is why she has been tolerated this long.

[lunchbox]

RKBA???

[Mike1951]

Sorry, Right to Keep and Bear Arms.