Help me, PLEASE

[OverEasy]

It's a really beautiful day today except for one little bitty thing.

The slide on my SIG P229 is STUCK with a live round in the chamber!

Is there a SIG armorer in the Houston, College Station area?????

I need some professional help on this one. I have learned my lesson in the past. No more 3 lb. hammer work for me, it has cost me enough that I have learned to over come the temptation. Not to mention a live round.

I have a SIG P229/357SIG that I bought a Bar-Sto 9mm conversion barrel for. After waiting 2-1/2 months it finnaly arrived. I put it in the gun racked the slide 4 or 5 times to check the function, loaded a magazine with a few rounds, inserted the mag, racked the slide and caa-ching! It jammed up!!!
The slide will move back and forth about 1/16". But it won't go forward into battery, lacks about 1/4" And I can't pull it back to eject the round in the chamber. It feels like metal to metal in either direction.

I thought catching the FedEx guy for the "signature required" was going to be my biggest problem. That went real smooth for a change.

This is my Christmas present that I have been waiting for since mid Nov.

I need a SIG armorer.
Thanks OE

[HighVelocity]

Ouch. That's definitely a heartbreaker. I have followed that Bar-sto group buy thread on sigforum. Is that where you got yours?

Insert and empty mag in the gun. Put our thumb under the hammer on the back of the grip with your fingers over the top of the slide so you're basically pulling the slde back by the rear sight. Use both hands of you have to. When the slide comes free pull it all the way back and the empty mag will lock the slide open. Then the round will fall out and you can take the gun apart.

If this doesn't work, pm me your phone number.

[stevie_d_64]

Are you using factory ammo or reloads???

Regardless of that info, drop that magazine if you can...That way if it does go off, you won't obviously chamber another round...

I'm not an expert, but for some reason it makes me think you've chambered a round, yet the case wall may have buckled in the chamber and is causing the action to be limited in motion like you've described...

The reloaders on the forum may know better than I...

And I have never heard or seen a jam like you've described where you can't, with as much effort as you can muster, get that slide back and eject that bad round...

Good luck, I hope someone else can help you figure it out...

We seem to be having a plethra of gun failures these days...

[yardsale]

I'm no expert by any means,

However, I did have the EXACT same symptoms with my XD at the range today. I dropped the magazine and with my finger off of the trigger,"stabbed the slide into the carpeted surface of the bench at a 45 degree angle. That popped the slide loose and I was able to eject the damaged round. The gunsmith looked it over and his opinion was bad casing from the factory. I went back and put another 100 rounds through it with no further problems.

[OverEasy]

Gentlemen,
Thank you !!!!!

It's back to being a beautiful day again.

Lesson 1, Never assume! I was sure the 4 loose rounds in the dresser were factory ammo........ NOT!

HighVelocity, I grabbed that slide in a 'death grip' and I pulled and I pulled some more. Nothing. I had that little 1/16" play and it got just a tad bigger.
I used it like a slidehammer, just jerking it back,let up jerk again etc.

It was the round WEDGED in the chamber!! It finally came loose.

I stripped the gun, took the barrel and tried the fit of the round in the chamber by hand. The rounds I had found in the dresser wouldn't chamber. Brand new fresh out of the box Blazer Brass would slip right in and I could even turn the round in the chamber.

I reassembled the P229 loaded up 3 rounds of Blazer Brass and went out to the sand pile. It went BANG every time! YES!!!

Tomorrow it's off to the range. The 357SIG barrel and the 40S&W barrel shoot in the same place. Now I want to see if the Bar-Sto 9mm conversion will hit in the same place too. I'm looking forward to being able to practice with something less expensive than 357SIG or 40S&W ammo.

That thing was stuck, HARD! I'll try that slide against the bench top trick if I ever have another problem!

HV, no I didn't participate in SF group buy. I ordered direct from Bar-Sto online.

FYI, That stuff iin the dresser was reloads from Houston Cartridge Co. from about 20 years ago. I thought it was all long gone. They are all bulged just abit down near the base.

Stevie, 3 calibers from one gun. the money you save on ammo will pay for the barrels. Don't buy a cheap one.


Merry Christmas, OE

[HighVelocity]

Congrats OE. Glad you got it fixed. I also have a 3 barrel Sig. Mines is a P229. I have a Sig factory 40 barrel, Bar-Sto 357 Sig barrel and a Bar-Sto 9mm conversion barrel.
Out of the 3, the 9mm barrel is the most accurate. I initially purchased some 9mm 228 mags to use with the 9mm barrel but discovered that the 40/357 mags work just fine with 9mm ammo.

[Baytown]

Is there any reason why you can't put a 9mm barrel in a Glock 22? Anyone??

Glenn

[HighVelocity]

Is there any reason why you can't put a 9mm barrel in a Glock 22? Anyone??

Glenn

You can get a 9mm conversion barrel for a Glock 22 but you cannot put a stock Glock 9mm barrel in a G22 because the outside diameter of the barrels are not equal.

I have a conversion barrel for my G23 that works very well. I got it from http://www.kkmprecision.com

You will have to use G17 mags in your G22 though if you get a 9mm conversion barrel. You can't get away with using the .40 mags like you can with the Sig pistols.

[ElGato]

When a slide is really jammed, drill two holes in a post or bench top big enough to easily accommodate the end of the barrel and guide rod, then with the face of the slide against the post you can push the slide back with a lot more force.

Tomcat

[OverEasy]

Baytown,
HighVelocity is right about the outside diameter of the barrels being different and the necessity to use a conversion barrel made by an aftermarket co.

I have a 9mm conversion for my Glock 33. It's an EFK FireDragon and I would NOT recommend it (EFK). It jams alot! I will say that the EFK 40 S&W barrel I have for the G33 is excellent.

GlockTalk has had alot of favorable posts about 9mm conversion barrels made by Storm Lake, inexpensive also. I think http://www.topglock.com has them. I have also seen favorable comments about KKM Precision.

[yardsale]

Heres something interesting...

overeasy and I both got off easy... BUT... what if this had happened in a self defense situation?

I took it for granted that the factory rounds straight out of the box were "good to go" it was not, and caused a problem that I did not know immediately how to rectify. LESSON LEARNED- particularly for your defensive rounds, carefully inspect each one as you load it into the magazine.

most of you experienced guys probably do this as a matter of habit, but it's worth saying for those that don't... I'll be looking closely from now on!

[flintknapper]

... BUT... what if this had happened in a self defense situation?

. LESSON LEARNED- particularly for your defensive rounds, carefully inspect each one as you load it into the magazine.

!

I don't carry any rounds that I have not actually "Chambered", (for self defense).

Chamber sizes vary slightly, and though inspecting each cartridge for defects is good advice, it might not tell the whole story. If you actually chamber each round you intend to carry, then you can be reasonably certain it will not give you any problems. It just takes a minute.

Glad you got the pistol un-jammed. Thanks.. for sharing your experience.

[Crossfire]

Is there a SIG armorer in the Houston, College Station area?????

Glad to hear you got it un-stuck, but for future reference, if you need help call Gene at Schiller Arms in College Station 979-776-8727. He is very friendly, very helpful, and if he can't help you, he will know who can.

[txinvestigator]

Heres something interesting...

overeasy and I both got off easy... BUT... what if this had happened in a self defense situation?

I took it for granted that the factory rounds straight out of the box were "good to go" it was not, and caused a problem that I did not know immediately how to rectify. LESSON LEARNED- particularly for your defensive rounds, carefully inspect each one as you load it into the magazine.

most of you experienced guys probably do this as a matter of habit, but it's worth saying for those that don't... I'll be looking closely from now on!

I am confused. (not that hard to do..) Was the stuck bullet a factory round? Was it 20 years old?

[OverEasy]

llwatson, Thanks for the info about Schiller Arms

txinvestigator, The round that stuck was a RELOAD!! I THOUGHT that all the reloads were long gone!(I had bought them 20 yrs. ago) I ASSUMED all the rounds in the dresser were factory ammo.

My dresser drawer has a collection of stray ammo, rounds that have been taken out of magazines, the 5 that were left in a box of 50 by my wife because she was tired etc.

I was too lazy to go to the 'ammo locker' and dig out a new box of ammo. I just wanted to shoot 3 or 4 rounds to see if the gun would cycle. Bar-Sto warns that a new barrel may be tight or not even fit in the slide and if that is the case they will fit it to your slide.

Thanks again to everyone for the help!!! Regards, OE