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earlwb wrote:Some of these studies do seem to show an increase in aggressiveness with a firearm present. The recent TV series "Through the WormHole" with Morgan Freeman had a episode discussing some of this. The Episode 4 series 8 "Is gun crime a virus"? I think that it seems to affect those people with a liberal mindset much more than those with a conservative mindset. It is almost like a trigger got pulled with aggressiveness if a liberal sees a gun. I would like to see studies done with liberals separate from conservatives and maybe even in more detail, such as with race and different religious affiliations based on liberal versus conservative too. I think that would be most enlightening. Unfortunately I think that most of these studies are funded by the anti-2a billionaires looking to increase their power over people. We don't know if any studies were suppressed because the ones with the money didn't like the results.

One thought on open carry is that the firearm, being present, can easily result in it being considered "aggravated assault", depending on the circumstances. If two people get into a argument and one has a gun shown, it could quickly wind up being an aggravated assault even if the owner never touches the gun. Or the person touches the gun in a menacing manner.
Isn't firearm also present when someone conceals? Do you have specific case in mind where the mere presence of such an evil implement resulted in aggravated assault charge?

Specifically, two people got into an argument, one had a gun, never touched it, and he/she ended up charged with aggravated assault.

Oh, what is the legal classification for touching the gun in "menacing manner"? If it's on me, isn't the gun always touching me. :shock:
It's not my fault, it's guns fault for touching me, I never touched it. :rules: Just want to be sure I'm covered. :roll:
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I don't open carry, but I am deeply skeptical of almost all social (so-called) science. Much of it is just Lefty talking points gussied up in obscure language.
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earlwb wrote:Some of these studies do seem to show an increase in aggressiveness with a firearm present. The recent TV series "Through the WormHole" with Morgan Freeman had a episode discussing some of this. The Episode 4 series 8 "Is gun crime a virus"? I think that it seems to affect those people with a liberal mindset much more than those with a conservative mindset. It is almost like a trigger got pulled with aggressiveness if a liberal sees a gun. I would like to see studies done with liberals separate from conservatives and maybe even in more detail, such as with race and different religious affiliations based on liberal versus conservative too. I think that would be most enlightening. Unfortunately I think that most of these studies are funded by the anti-2a billionaires looking to increase their power over people. We don't know if any studies were suppressed because the ones with the money didn't like the results.

One thought on open carry is that the firearm, being present, can easily result in it being considered "aggravated assault", depending on the circumstances. If two people get into a argument and one has a gun shown, it could quickly wind up being an aggravated assault even if the owner never touches the gun. Or the person touches the gun in a menacing manner.
Absolute hokum. Can Morgan Freeman visiting Venezuela and Chavez be considered like a virus that then infected Maduro and caused the economy to collapse? The society has all the signs of a (Freeman) virus infection...people losing weight, weakening immune systems, various deficiency diseases...Only the police and military are allowed to have firearms...yet the murder rate has skyrocketed. Also clearly a symptom of the Freeman and Penn flu. :mad5
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Morgan Freeman is a lib?

Say it aint so!
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Abraham wrote:Morgan Freeman is a lib?

Say it aint so!
Yeah, he thought Chavez and Saddam were great freedom fighters. :shock:
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earlwb wrote:Some of these studies do seem to show an increase in aggressiveness with a firearm present. The recent TV series "Through the WormHole" with Morgan Freeman had a episode discussing some of this. The Episode 4 series 8 "Is gun crime a virus"? I think that it seems to affect those people with a liberal mindset much more than those with a conservative mindset. It is almost like a trigger got pulled with aggressiveness if a liberal sees a gun. I would like to see studies done with liberals separate from conservatives and maybe even in more detail, such as with race and different religious affiliations based on liberal versus conservative too. I think that would be most enlightening. Unfortunately I think that most of these studies are funded by the anti-2a billionaires looking to increase their power over people. We don't know if any studies were suppressed because the ones with the money didn't like the results.

One thought on open carry is that the firearm, being present, can easily result in it being considered "aggravated assault", depending on the circumstances. If two people get into a argument and one has a gun shown, it could quickly wind up being an aggravated assault even if the owner never touches the gun. Or the person touches the gun in a menacing manner.

Not to be overly argumentative, but I believe your perception is incorrect. If two people get into an argument and one has a cane, that he/she neither raises in a threatening manner or threatens the protagonist, with, could they be charged with aggravated assault? The mere presents of a gun is not, grounds for such a charge, because if so, every LEO in the country would be in fear of being charged.
I have no doubt that there are those who " feel" intimidated by the sight of a gun, but for aggravated assault charges to be applied, feelings are not enough. The complainant must also be able articulate a threat, even if it is only verbal. In your scenario, a 6'-5" man could be charged with Agravated assault if he argues with a 4'-11" woman, because his size may intimidate her.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
VoodooSan wrote:Now when I leave the house she will ask "Hey you are carrying right?" She feels safer and sleeps better knowing we are armed.
And that is great, so I'm not knocking it. But is she yet to the point where she's considering carrying one herself? My wife was sort of like yours.....not anti-2nd Amendment, but just not understanding why anyone not LEO would want to carry one. Then I gave her her first ever firearm - a S&W snubbie - for Valentine's Day in 2008. Then she got it. She not only wanted me to carry, but she began to see that she could too.

Now I know that, heaven forbid something should happen to me, she can still protect herself. She carries every single day now.
Actually yes. She is wanting to get her CHL now.
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VoodooSan wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
VoodooSan wrote:Now when I leave the house she will ask "Hey you are carrying right?" She feels safer and sleeps better knowing we are armed.
And that is great, so I'm not knocking it. But is she yet to the point where she's considering carrying one herself? My wife was sort of like yours.....not anti-2nd Amendment, but just not understanding why anyone not LEO would want to carry one. Then I gave her her first ever firearm - a S&W snubbie - for Valentine's Day in 2008. Then she got it. She not only wanted me to carry, but she began to see that she could too.

Now I know that, heaven forbid something should happen to me, she can still protect herself. She carries every single day now.
Actually yes. She is wanting to get her CHL now.
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