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Re: holster wiggle

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Jusme wrote:My particular Blade Tech had two plastic loops mounted on it, that did spread out the weight distribution, but they were rigid and caused the pistol to stand further away from my body. Just a personal preference, I like my DeSantis, leather holster, it holds my pistol high and tight. My kydex is fine but, I only use it occasionally usually when drawing and firing, at a range I very seldom wear it when carrying in public.
Right with ya. I've pretty much been a Comp-Tac guy for IWB for almost a decade. IWB, I most often carry a 1911, but sometimes an XD(M); use the MTAC holster for both. I also use their all-Kydex belt holsters for IDPA.

But for OWB concealed carry, my preference has always been a leather pancake-style holster. The design pulls the holster and gun into your body as flat as, well, as flat as a pancake. And the leather affords a little flex as your body bends. You just can't beat the comfort.

I prefer the Kydex-leather hybrids for IWB because the Kydex shell keeps the amount of tension on the gun consistent, unlike all-leather where the tension varies based on how tight the belt is torqued. Also far easier to reholster. I have a nice Milt Sparks all-leather IWB for the 1911 that I've worn a few times, but it's been relegated to the holster drawer since around 2007.
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Re: holster wiggle

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Wag2323 wrote:
Jusme wrote:

It does, my belt is 1-3/4" so it uses all available space with no attachments. The issue is that it centralizes the holster to only the width of the Tek-Lok approx 2" and does not allow the belt to be woven back through a belt loop, like having two separate loops/slots do, which puts all of the strain on a very small part of the belt. My particular Blade Tech had two plastic loops mounted on it, that did spread out the weight distribution, but they were rigid and caused the pistol to stand further away from my body. Just a personal preference, I like my DeSantis, leather holster, it holds my pistol high and tight. My kydex is fine but, I only use it occasionally usually when drawing and firing, at a range I very seldom wear it when carrying in public.

Good to know. I have not tried a Tek-Lok but have looked at them. Thanks

It may work fine on a smaller gun/holster, it is just too much with a fully loaded full size M&P. I have one on my kydex ESEE 5 knife sheath set up for scout carry, and it works great. They are also able to be used on Molle webbing. Like a lot of things it is 'personal preference. I know people who love them on large holsters and heavy guns, it's just not for me.
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Re: holster wiggle

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Either your belt and loop aren't sized for each other (width AND thickness) or your belt is sagging/rotating. Even is you have a good belt- something is amiss.

Example: I have an all steel 4" 1911 that I carry with a single clip IWB. WHen I carry with a wilderness belt with stiffener or a leather belt it moves around a bit but nothing like you describe. When I carry with a leather belt with stiffener insert it's solid. The former 2 are good gunbelts but a steel 1911 and a single clip just aren't a great match for them.
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Re: holster wiggle

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growlerVII wrote:Sometimes I carry a commander length 1911. It's a great pistol and, I don't mind the weight. The problem I have is when carried at 4:30 in a custom kydex holster it tends to need adjustment. The grip starts drifting downward on me. I've got another holster but the kydex is the easiest on/off rig I own. It has one of those injection molded belt clips. Any suggestions to mitigate the rotation on the belt? Should I make another belt loop for it? Move on to a different holster? Or just suck it up and, adjust it as needed? It rides on a wilderness 1.75" instructor's belt (great product!)

Anyone have this problem? Thoughts?
You didn't mention if it's an IWB or OWB holster. That'll make a difference.

I've gotta think the single belt clip is the likely culprit. If the Kydex shell and associated tension retention is properly constructed, I have to believe having a single pivot point on the belt is the problem. Even a wide belt clip, if a single, simply isn't as stable as a holster that has two clips for a base. And most modern IWB hybrid Kydex holsters (Comp-Tac, Crossbreed, Alien Gear) have the clips fairly widely spaced on the back of the leather base.

Since you're using a 1.75" belt, that isn't likely a contributor. But a general note is that I've talked to people before who felt their holsters weren't very stable, and in some cases they were using a holster slotted for 1.75" on a 1.5" belt. Even if the gun doesn't shift--as in rotate--if a holster has nice tension retension, drawing from a belt that is mismatched to the holster slots/clips can present a definite issue. Holster can slide up and down.
I had this same problem with three leather IWB holsters I had. I actually still have them, but they fit two guns I no longer own — a HK USPc and a 3" Kimber. Two were fairly expensive Galco models, and one was a DM Bullard. All were well-made in terms of fit & finish......it's just not a very good design IMHO. They either had one loop, or two loops which were so close together as to function as a single loop. They did a poor job of keeping the entire gun/holster package from rotating backwards; and in the case of the most expensive one — a $130.00 Galco Royal Guard IWB for the 3" Kimber — it wouldn't even retain the gun vertically beneath my belt. The entire gun/holster package would ride upward vertically until just the muzzle was being retained behind the belt, causing the package to sag outward. The belt was a 1-1/2" DM Bullard bull hide gun belt, and the holsters were all ordered to fit a 1-1/2" belt, so the belt wasn't the issue.

Since then, I've only got one single-clip IWB holster — a kydex one designed and made by my son to fit a Glock 43 — which I carry at the appendix position and which works very, very well. But otherwise, I am not sold on single clip/loop holsters.
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