large knives and batons?

Gun, shooting and equipment discussions unrelated to CHL issues

Moderator: carlson1


Topic author
josehm89
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:11 pm

large knives and batons?

#1

Post by josehm89 »

anyone carry a knife longer than 5.5? or a collapsible baton? Ive seen those collapsible 12 inch baton at academy with a belt or pocket clip and curious if anyone carries those.
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#2

Post by Jusme »

Those could fall under prohibited weapons, unless you are engaged in an activity such as hunting, camping etc. or are traveling to or from that activity, knives with blades longer than 5 inches are prohibited. Expandable batons ASP etc.. are considered clubs. Clubs are defined by either their design or their use, so even a baseball bat could be considered a club if used as such. While these things are legal to own and keep at your home, they would be considered illegal in public.
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:

Topic author
josehm89
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:11 pm

Re: large knives and batons?

#3

Post by josehm89 »

Jusme wrote:Those could fall under prohibited weapons, unless you are engaged in an activity such as hunting, camping etc. or are traveling to or from that activity, knives with blades longer than 5 inches are prohibited. Expandable batons ASP etc.. are considered clubs. Clubs are defined by either their design or their use, so even a baseball bat could be considered a club if used as such. While these things are legal to own and keep at your home, they would be considered illegal in public.
that's what I thought. I was somewhat confused because an older gentleman was telling me he carries a baton, and a 6 inch fixed blade along with his 1911. he mentioned a case of a man in Austin carrying an illegal blade into the capitol building, and being charged with prohibited weapons. he mentioned a non-applicability that's apparently in the P.C. somewhere, although ive looked and cannot seem to find it. I do remember the case, and not to sure on the outcome, if I remember though the charger were dropped. im just trying to clear it up for myself, and seeing if anyone else does this.
User avatar

Pariah3j
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 865
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:03 pm
Location: Webster

Re: large knives and batons?

#4

Post by Pariah3j »

I've never been able to find any language to back it up, but I've heard before that somehow with an LTC a collapsible baton with your concealed carry could be permitted. Something along the lines of because it gives you a less than lethal option. Or that being the reasoning behind it. I would be curious to know if there is such a provision or argument that is 'reasonably' being made.
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny" - Thomas Jefferson
User avatar

Breny414
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 256
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:27 am
Location: Austin

Re: large knives and batons?

#5

Post by Breny414 »

My understanding is that 46.02 does not apply to an LTC that is actively carrying.

Richbirdhunter
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1109
Joined: Mon May 18, 2015 7:45 pm
Location: DFW Denton County

Re: large knives and batons?

#6

Post by Richbirdhunter »

That's a fantastic idea! I'm going to put a bayonet on my open carry rig. :smilelol5:
Disclaimer: Anything I state can not be applied to 100% of all situations. Sometimes it's ok to speak in general terms.
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#7

Post by Jusme »

Breny414 wrote:My understanding is that 46.02 does not apply to an LTC that is actively carrying.

I think that the intent of the exclusion would pertain to handguns which also fall under prohibited weapons. Even so, the issue would have to be settled in court. You may beat the rap but you won't beat the ride. If my handgun is not "enough" protection I don't see having a large knife or baton as helpful.

:fire
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#8

Post by Jusme »

Richbirdhunter wrote:That's a fantastic idea! I'm going to put a bayonet on my open carry rig. :smilelol5:
I was thinking about a saber, that should draw the attention away from my handgun!! "rlol"
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#9

Post by Jusme »

Richbirdhunter wrote:That's a fantastic idea! I'm going to put a bayonet on my open carry rig. :smilelol5:
I was thinking about a saber, that should draw the attention away from my handgun!! "rlol"
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:
User avatar

Breny414
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 256
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:27 am
Location: Austin

Re: large knives and batons?

#10

Post by Breny414 »

Jusme wrote:
Breny414 wrote:My understanding is that 46.02 does not apply to an LTC that is actively carrying.

I think that the intent of the exclusion would pertain to handguns which also fall under prohibited weapons. Even so, the issue would have to be settled in court. You may beat the rap but you won't beat the ride. If my handgun is not "enough" protection I don't see having a large knife or baton as helpful.

:fire
Right... I'm not going to try to test it either, and I don't own a club, illegal knife or anything else prohibited. But it was my LTC instructor's understanding of the law, too.
User avatar

puma guy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 7787
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Location: Near San Jacinto

Re: large knives and batons?

#11

Post by puma guy »

Jusme wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:That's a fantastic idea! I'm going to put a bayonet on my open carry rig. :smilelol5:
I was thinking about a saber, that should draw the attention away from my handgun!! "rlol"
Nah!! I'm going with this.

Image
KAHR PM40/Hoffner IWB and S&W Mod 60/ Galco IWB
NRA Endowment Member, TSRA Life Member,100 Club Life Member,TFC Member
My Faith, My Gun and My Constitution: I cling to all three!
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#12

Post by Jusme »

puma guy wrote:
Jusme wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:That's a fantastic idea! I'm going to put a bayonet on my open carry rig. :smilelol5:
I was thinking about a saber, that should draw the attention away from my handgun!! "rlol"
Nah!! I'm going with this.

Image

Put a big rock on the other end and you would be covered on both accounts!! :evil2:
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:
User avatar

Jago668
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 992
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 12:31 am

Re: large knives and batons?

#13

Post by Jago668 »

The normal rule is 5.5" and single sharpened edge. Your own property, hunting, and sport have exceptions. Least that was my understanding. Also remember it isn't an illegal club, it is a tire thumper.
NRA Benefactor Member
User avatar

puma guy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 7787
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Location: Near San Jacinto

Re: large knives and batons?

#14

Post by puma guy »

Jago668 wrote:The normal rule is 5.5" and single sharpened edge. Your own property, hunting, and sport have exceptions. Least that was my understanding. Also remember it isn't an illegal club, it is a tire thumper.
I remember when a lot of people had just bought a new handle for their ax and were "always" on their way home with it.
KAHR PM40/Hoffner IWB and S&W Mod 60/ Galco IWB
NRA Endowment Member, TSRA Life Member,100 Club Life Member,TFC Member
My Faith, My Gun and My Constitution: I cling to all three!
User avatar

Jusme
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 5350
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 pm
Location: Johnson County, Texas

Re: large knives and batons?

#15

Post by Jusme »

Jago668 wrote:The normal rule is 5.5" and single sharpened edge. Your own property, hunting, and sport have exceptions. Least that was my understanding. Also remember it isn't an illegal club, it is a tire thumper.

Yeah right up until you give someone an attitude adjustment with it. I had to carry an ASP when I was a LEO, maybe I'm just getting older, but just toting my handgun around all day is all the additional weight I need to carry.
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second :rules: :patriot:
Post Reply

Return to “General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion”