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LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:45 pm
by skeathley
I haven't had a LEO in my class before. I thought they were exempt from the proficiency. One signed up recently, so I called Austin to verify that, and was told they were exempt from all of the class. Fine. I contacted the LEO, and was told that he was only allowed to carry his duty weapon concealed off duty, and by getting the CHL, he could carry anything.
Is he misunderstanding something, or should I let him take the class like a civilian? It almost sounds like a dept policy issue.
Thanks.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:27 pm
by Saffron
If he still wants to take the class what's the harm in treating him like any other paying customer?
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:45 pm
by o b juan
Actually they dont have too (FBI, B.P. City County LE) but their chief must sign off on a letter to dps
I have done a fewof some of the above because some agency chiefs want them to carry duty firearm off duty some are to large to conceal on a skinny city cop but there are lots of FAT ones
here in the Valle. some could Carry A deseert
Eagle.. Maybe they dont want the chiefs knowing everthing about them.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:37 pm
by carlson1
skeathley wrote:I haven't had a LEO in my class before. I thought they were exempt from the proficiency. One signed up recently, so I called Austin to verify that, and was told they were exempt from all of the class. Fine. I contacted the LEO, and was told that he was only allowed to carry his duty weapon concealed off duty, and by getting the CHL, he could carry anything.
Is he misunderstanding something, or should I let him take the class like a civilian? It almost sounds like a dept policy issue.
Thanks.
That is not the law, but very could be his departments policy.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:14 am
by nightmare69
carlson1 wrote:skeathley wrote:I haven't had a LEO in my class before. I thought they were exempt from the proficiency. One signed up recently, so I called Austin to verify that, and was told they were exempt from all of the class. Fine. I contacted the LEO, and was told that he was only allowed to carry his duty weapon concealed off duty, and by getting the CHL, he could carry anything.
Is he misunderstanding something, or should I let him take the class like a civilian? It almost sounds like a dept policy issue.
Thanks.
That is not the law, but very could be his departments policy.
This is what I was thinking. What department does he work for?
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:40 am
by mikeloc
I have had many LEO's take the Texas CHL class. It's less trouble when carrying out of state to show a CHL license. Once you retire from a department with a CHL you are not required to qualify with your department every year in order to carry. Department policy may have restrictions for off duty carry. Some may want to know what we're teaching and a view of the laws from a civilian viewpoint. A little research and you will find many members of this forum are active, retired, or former LEO's.
Mike Lochabay
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:18 am
by skeathley
What department does he work for?
Allen PD. He told his wife he could only carry his duty weapon concealed, and wants to be able to carry anything. I'm thinking it is a dept policy.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:40 am
by mojo84
I would welcome him to the class and look forward to hearing his perspective. He can deal with his department and its requirements as he sees fit.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:48 am
by Keith B
I have also heard that some LEOs want a CHL so if they get spotted in carrying a gun in plain clothes they won't have to disclose that they are a LEO and potentailly expose themselves if they are doing undercover work.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:17 am
by gljjt
mojo84 wrote:I would welcome him to the class and look forward to hearing his perspective. He can deal with his department and its requirements as he sees fit.
Makes sense to me, a non-CHL instructor, non-LEO.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:26 pm
by skeathley
Thanks to all for your input.
SK
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:38 pm
by gigag04
Reasons cops get CHL:
No BG check on new purchases
Carry if badge is taken in an IA investigation of termination.
Support the program
He should be able to exempt the whole process and pay $25 and send a letter to get one. That's what I do.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:06 am
by VMI77
Nothing wrong with a cop taking the class, but they should have an exemption that lets them get a CHL without having to take the class.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:54 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
VMI77 wrote:Nothing wrong with a cop taking the class, but they should have an exemption that lets them get a CHL without having to take the class.
No way Jose. EVERYONE should have the same standard. I've seen enough of this "rules for thee but not me" thank you very much.
Re: LEO taking CHL class
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:00 pm
by carlson1
Cedar Park Dad wrote:VMI77 wrote:Nothing wrong with a cop taking the class, but they should have an exemption that lets them get a CHL without having to take the class.
No way Jose. EVERYONE should have the same standard. I've seen enough of this "rules for thee but not me" thank you very much.
Really?
They do have an exemption and they should have the exemption. They have at least had five to six months of training thus they have more than exceeded the little four hour CHL class. They quality twice a year at minimum and CHL's qualify one time.
So I guess according to you we all need a five month long academy to get our CHL's.