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Questions on approved courses
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by Tha_Veteran
I have applied to become an instructor and got my packet today. I have taken several pistol courses while in the military because it was my primary weapon. Since it was my primary weapon there is really no documentation on what courses I have taken. I can provide my MOS, and maybe a list of courses. Is there anything that I can do.
Thanks i advanced.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:40 pm
by Papacub
The only suggestion I can make is to call DPS CHL section or email them and find out if what you have is good enough. The email address is
CHLinstructors@txdps.state.tx.us
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:01 pm
by Tha_Veteran
Thanks Papacub, I will get on that asap.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:38 pm
by MoJo
Your DD214 should have all the training you recieved while in the military. Were you an instructor?
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:49 pm
by Tha_Veteran
No not an instructor. I was a Tanker, my primary weapon was the M9.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:50 am
by Bill
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Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:40 am
by E.Marquez
Did your unit do the right thing and produce and provide a Certificate of training? For what ever oginized and official training program of instruction they put togeather?
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Did you participate in any of the last few years of Mobil training team events for small arms that select leaders have be able to go to at local duty stations prior to deployment?
Say the Small Arms Master Gunner (SAMG) course?
Or the civilian contracted ones from Texas and farther that have been brought to Fort Hood (if that is where you where ever last stationed)? If so, you should be able to provide a training roster showing you were in the course (ATARS) and then get a POI from the course presenters.
Unless other then that, you can cite the passage from the Program of instruction at your MOS producing school that states you were trained , and or any POI from an NCOES school that states the same.
I have no idea if DPS will except any of that,, so I'm only commenting on what the Army (your units) can or could could have done to provide what your looking for.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:49 pm
by boomerang
I thought they wanted instructor training to qualify for the shorter class. If they wanted handgun training, a TR-100 should qualify.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:08 pm
by MoJo
boomerang wrote:I thought they wanted instructor training to qualify for the shorter class. If they wanted handgun training, a TR-100 should qualify.
It is instructor training - - - I'm taking the short course because I'm NRA certified as a Basic Pistol Instructor.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:25 pm
by boomerang
MoJo wrote:boomerang wrote:I thought they wanted instructor training to qualify for the shorter class. If they wanted handgun training, a TR-100 should qualify.
It is instructor training - - - I'm taking the short course because I'm NRA certified as a Basic Pistol Instructor.
Right. My point was that taking several pistol classes, even in the military, is not the same as having prior training as a firearm instructor.
Re: Questions on approved courses
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:56 pm
by E.Marquez
boomerang wrote:MoJo wrote:boomerang wrote:I thought they wanted instructor training to qualify for the shorter class. If they wanted handgun training, a TR-100 should qualify.
It is instructor training - - - I'm taking the short course because I'm NRA certified as a Basic Pistol Instructor.
Right. My point was that taking several pistol classes, even in the military, is not the same as having prior training as a firearm instructor.
LOL,, it was my point as well...
In the Army, it is the NCO that instructs the other 1/2 million soldiers in everything they do.. Train the trainer programs via In house schools or outside contractor is how we do biz.
Your average NCO has more instructor training and actual instructing time then many of the instructors I've met doing CHL or range briefings / classes ...There are exceptions of course, NCO'S I would not trust to train someone to put on flip flops, and Many civilian instructors that take pride and professional steps in there training of others..
The OP may not have been an NCO, or may never have had any instructor training... so none of this above may apply... it was just a suggestion.