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Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:43 pm
by garcia946
Being that I`m becoming and Instructor.
I have a question , I`ve asked one range ( gonna ask more )if they allow others to come in and teach , but the guy didnt seen to know anything about others coming in and teaching besides the gentleman they have.
How hard is it to find a range that will allow this? Or is any range needing people in Dallas area?
Any help or suggestions , will help...
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:29 pm
by >whiplash<
Show them how you can make them money. Ranges are businesses. If they're teaching classes in house they probably don't want the competition. If it's an independent instructor then they might like having another instructor teaching there and bringing in more money for them.
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:36 pm
by garcia946
I know I can make money. The guy said at the one range the instructor was affiliated with them.
Seemed like he didnt care much.
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:10 pm
by garcia946
Question , How can I show them I can make them money , when they all say " WE HAVE IN-HOUSE INSTRUCTORS"
and then don`t give you the time of day...
Makes me so mad...
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:24 pm
by Crossfire
Garcia - most ranges that have in-house instructors are paying those guys a little bit of the cut, or paying them a flat rate regardless of how many students they have in the class. My experience is, you won't make much as a range employee.
Your best course of action is to establish yourself as an instuctor on your own. Instead of asking them if they will hire you as an instructor, you need to ask how much they charge in range fees for outside instructors. Do your own advertising, get your own class together and then bring them to the range to shoot.
Once the range starts seeing you on a regular basis, they may ask you to teach for them. Then, if you still want to, you have a foot in the door.
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:52 pm
by garcia946
I`m not asking them to hire me , all i`m asking is if I can teach there... when needed. That is when they tell me they have in-house instructors.
All I want to do is find a place around my area to teach, that`s it..... you know bring them business ,as in my class I`ll pay for the lanes and everything , not asking for a handout , just looking for a place I can take a class to( a small one 4 to 6 maybe) make alittle money as well as them and they treat me like the plague... and dont want to talk to me...
I just dont understand ...
I found one range , out of my area will do what i`m talking about , just alittle to far then I like , but I may have to do that...
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:58 pm
by boomerang
Like the first reply said, if they're already teaching in house then you're competition.
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:00 pm
by garcia946
True , but is it not it more money coming in for the business...
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:12 am
by Catfight
Maybe I got lucky, but I found a range here in San Antonio that doesnt mind "competition" from instructors...I just have to find time at the range when no other instructor is there with their class. The range was more than accommodating when it came to having others teach there.
Re: Question About Teaching at Ranges
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:28 pm
by CompVest
I see two main options:
Option one. You need to establish yourself at a range by shooting there. This will allow the owners to get to know you. During this time bring one or two "guests" with you to offer unofficial instruction to. This will allow the owners a chance to see what you bring to the table. This option takes a significant investment in time.
Option two. (Cold calls)Have a well developed resume with references from hopefully some shooters at your target range to give to the owners. It is very good if you are offering a specialized course of fire that can add to what the owner already has available.
The above options apply more to a freelance shooting instructor then to a CHL or NRA instructor. Shooting instructors have a lot more flexibility in setting up there course curriculums and so stand a chance of filling in a niche need at a range. Once established at a range it is easier to branch out into other areas and even in to other ranges.
You got build the name! A good way to start building a name is to work with a local college or business. I found that you can do personal defense talk at these places and build in to their asking you to set up a shooting class. Ranges that might be closed to you may open up when you bring in a college group or business group for shooting.
Good luck to you. At the rate shooting, CHL, and NRA instructors are hitting the "job" market range owners are in the driving seat.