McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna is not happy after one of his staff accidentally fired a gun inside the courthouse complex Monday.
Assistant D-A Michael Jarrett apparently didn't think the gun was loaded when he pulled the trigger, and the bullet blew out a window in an office and hit a brick wall nearby.
"I'm the only one in this room that is professionally trained to carry this" BANG!
Where is your sign?
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:28 am
by jmra
If anything good comes out of this it will be much needed additional firearm training for a certain employee.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:40 am
by ChoqPOC
What ever happned to... Check, Re-check, Triple Check. The gun is always loaded unless you've CHECKED and visually inspected that it's clear.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:44 am
by philip964
Yes, pulling the trigger is a very accurate way to determine if a gun is loaded. However, unlike the other method, it tends to make the newspapers.
The test to determine if a gun is loaded is immaterial as we all know that a gun is always loaded. It is like Schrodinger's cat.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:14 am
by n5wd
If you guys will read the second link's posting, it says that the unfortunate Asst-DA asked the owner of the new Glock .40 (also another Asst-DA) whether it was loaded, and the owner said "no", so the party of the first-part (the shooter) did a press-check and didn't see anything in the chamber.
Jarrett pulled back the slide, he said, to double-check if it was loaded and didn’t see a bullet slide into the chamber.
So , IMHO his boss should provide him (in this order):
1. A citation for discharging a firearm within city limits
2. a letter of reprimand for unsafe handling of a firearm within county offices
3. a bill for the damage (why should the taxpayers pay for this)
4. better office lighting
5. an appointment with an optometrist
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:20 am
by ChoqPOC
I unfortunately couldn't access the 2nd link, the silly advertisement wouldn't go away.
Nonetheless - when handing someone your firearm, you should ALWAYS point the fiream in a safe direction, THEN remove the magazine, NEXT lock the slide back and FINALLY inspect the chamber. Press check is great for validating that your round is properly in the chamber, but for verifying that one isn't in the chamber... I strongly suggest the aformentioned.
error proof.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:15 am
by gemini
ChoqPOC wrote:I unfortunately couldn't access the 2nd link, the silly advertisement wouldn't go away.
Nonetheless - when handing someone your firearm, you should ALWAYS point the fiream in a safe direction, THEN remove the magazine, NEXT lock the slide back and FINALLY inspect the chamber. Press check is great for validating that your round is properly in the chamber, but for verifying that one isn't in the chamber... I strongly suggest the aformentioned.
error proof.
I have never been a fan of "press check", for validating or verifying anything regarding a firearm.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:28 am
by MechAg94
ChoqPOC wrote:I unfortunately couldn't access the 2nd link, the silly advertisement wouldn't go away.
Nonetheless - when handing someone your firearm, you should ALWAYS point the fiream in a safe direction, THEN remove the magazine, NEXT lock the slide back and FINALLY inspect the chamber. Press check is great for validating that your round is properly in the chamber, but for verifying that one isn't in the chamber... I strongly suggest the aformentioned.
error proof.
Outside of a serious situation, I don't think you should ever hand a loaded gun to anyone.
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:21 am
by Excaliber
n5wd wrote:If you guys will read the second link's posting, it says that the unfortunate Asst-DA asked the owner of the new Glock .40 (also another Asst-DA) whether it was loaded, and the owner said "no", so the party of the first-part (the shooter) did a press-check and didn't see anything in the chamber.
Jarrett pulled back the slide, he said, to double-check if it was loaded and didn’t see a bullet slide into the chamber.
So , IMHO his boss should provide him (in this order):
1. A citation for discharging a firearm within city limits
2. a letter of reprimand for unsafe handling of a firearm within county offices
3. a bill for the damage (why should the taxpayers pay for this)
4. better office lighting6
5. an appointment with an optometrist
Great list!
Suggested additions:
6. Training in how to determine whether or not a gun is loaded for both the owner and the shooter.
7. Training in how to prepare a gun for inspection by another (magazine out, slide locked back, chamber verified empty visually and by feel).
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:56 pm
by Frankie
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Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:31 pm
by texanjoker
In all reality if this was an ASSISTANT DA then it was an ATTORNEY, not a law enforcement officer that fired the gun. So this should be classified in the ATTORNEY blooper section
Re: McLennan Asst. DA has ND inside a courthouse classroom.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:38 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
texanjoker wrote:In all reality if this was an ASSISTANT DA then it was an ATTORNEY, not a law enforcement officer that fired the gun. So this should be classified in the ATTORNEY blooper section