DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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Re: DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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gregthehand wrote:I got pulled over this last Saturday just outside Trinity coming from Huntsville. The speed drops to 55 mph coming into town and I didn't notice the sign so I was still doing 65ish mph. A DPS car whipped around on me and pulled me over. I went ahead and stopped into a gas station so we didn't have to sit on the side of the road with cars going by. The Trooper immediately asked me to step to the rear of the vehicle and I did so. Before I even showed him my CHL and all that he said why he stopped me and that I would be receiving a warning. After I he took my stuff he asked if I was carrying on my person which I was and where was it. I told him in my pocket (Kel-Tec PF9) and he had me put my hands in the air while he got it out. He unloaded it and handed me back my CHL, magazine, and one loose round. Something kid of funny; when he dropped the magazine out of my pistol he looked at the Speer Gold Dot and said "Hmm you mean business." I thought that was amusing.

Anyhow he came back with my warning and paperwork. Now he did mention why they were running CHL holder's weapons. He stated that they ran one every once in a while and it would come up as stolen. He said they had one last month that did so and the guy had bought it brand new from Carter's Country. Apparently a lot, as in a storage lot, had been broken into and "most" of the guns had been stolen but not all. Carter's Country just sent the loading manifest and the PD that handled the case marked everything on the manifest as stolen. So this guy had one of the guns that wasn't stolen but was mistakenly marked as such.

He asked if my wife had ammunition in the car (she didn't) and placed my pistol on the driver's seat. We then parted ways.

Overall the Trooper was extremely professional and courteous (I've never been treated any other way by DPS though). I think he realized I honestly didn't realize the speed limit dropped and cut me a break. I even told him flat out I must not have been paying attention. I think the stop went very well and I have to tell you I really don't care that he disarmed me. I wouldn't rate it as even a minor inconvenience and none of my guns are stolen. I know some will say a "right not exercised is soon lost" etc but I think picking your battles, not only which ones but when to fight them. I wasn't going to question this guy on the side of the road and no way in heck am I going to not put up my hands right after a peace officer tells me to do so.

On a side note we stopped at McKenzie's for lunch in Huntsville. I highly recommend it! :txflag:

Oh one more thing. When we got home that afternoon the wife's brand new license was waiting in the mailbox for us. I wonder what I would have said had she been carrying when he asked "Does she have any ammunition in the vehicle?"
If you are happy about being disarmed and the way the DPS stop turned out, great. Although I would never resist being
disarmed by LEO, I would not be elated. From the start you were informed you would be getting a warning.... I imagine that
in itself was not upsetting. Unless you were drunk, exhibited a nasty attitude, acted in a belligerent manner or otherwise caused the
DPS trooper to have a reason to fear you, disarming was not necessary. Not every LEO is a firearm expert. Having you raise your hands above your head, and the DPS trooper pull your gun from it's holster/concealment (your pocket)........ sounds like a possible potential ND, your leg or hip taking the hit. OOOpps. CHL and DPS...... trust works both ways. Sounds like more and more a one-way street.

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Re: DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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I sure wouldn't like it.

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Happened to me, the enforcer used the "it might be stolen" excuse. Was not impressed with his handling of the weapon.
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Yeah, it might be stolen. I'm a CHL holder, no criminal record, yeah, there's a good chance I'm packin a stolen handgun. That way if I gotta shoot somebody it can't be traced back to me.
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Frost wrote:Happened to me, the enforcer used the "it might be stolen" excuse. Was not impressed with his handling of the weapon.
Maybe you should get his badge number, and call his department to make sure he's not impersonating a police officer.

I would probably cooperate but I'd sure have attitude about it.
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Re: DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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Your car might be stolen, too. So might the clothes your wearing. So might the officers car & clothes. So might your cellphone. And on... and on...

Why pick on the gun? Lets check out everything!

What's the probable cause to suspect the gun is stolen?
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I personally would not mind if a LEO wanted to run my numbers...Hell, I would be more than happy to make my weapon safe for him to handle.

I have several firearms that I purchased in FTF transactions. Yes the CHL basically states that we have no criminal records and all that, but that does not mean the firearm that we LEGALLY purchased from another individual isn't stolen. Not all criminals are the shady gangsta crack head you know.
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Re: DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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MojoTexas wrote:Maybe you should get his badge number, and call his department to make sure he's not impersonating a police officer.

I would probably cooperate but I'd sure have attitude about it.
Dangerous people that I am forced to interact with get the best faux respect that I can pull off.
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sjfcontrol wrote:What's the probable cause to suspect the gun is stolen?
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Re: DPS trooper running serial numbers?

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Wonder if the trooper would mind you checking his weapon for stolen? You could call the local law enforcement agency and ask for a serial number check.

A few years ago, a local US Government court house would disarm LEO and check their weapons, a few had returns that showed stolen.

It is doubtful a trooper (or any LEO) would hand over their weapon, but, your request (reason) is a well founded as theirs would be.

Just a thought.
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