Supreme Court rules against the ATF on Bump Stocks - 6-3 Thomas authoring the decision. ATF exceeded their authority.
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SCOTUS Rules Against ATF on Bumpstocks
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SCOTUS Rules Against ATF on Bumpstocks
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The same principle should be applied to their attempt to redefine who is a firearm dealer.
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Re: SCOTUS Rules Against ATF on Bumpstocks
As several 2A supporters on social media have pointed out, this was not just a 2nd Amendment case per se. This was more about the over reach of bureaucrats (in this case the ATF) making law in the place of Congress. See Amy Swearer's article and two quotes linked below.
But Jack Smith makes a very interesting point about the minority opinion that is very helpful to the 2A community. It states that semiautomatic rifles are commonly available. He argues that this is a devastating legal admission by the left that AR15s are in common use and cannot be banned under Heller/Bruen.
https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1801628918249582662
Although Cargill was centered around firearms, it didn’t involve any arguments over whether the Second Amendment protects a right to own bump stocks, specifically, or machine guns, generally.
Rather, the question in this case was far more simplistic: Is a bump stock device a machine gun, in the first place?
It sends an important message that there’s no end run around—or loophole through—the democratic process. If Congress wants to change federal law, it must do so itself, through the legislative process and with its members bearing the political consequences of unpopular or unconstitutional laws.
And, in that sense, Cargill is a victory that reverberates far beyond the Second Amendment.
It’s a win for the rule of law and constitutional government.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/06/14/ ... advocates/
But Jack Smith makes a very interesting point about the minority opinion that is very helpful to the 2A community. It states that semiautomatic rifles are commonly available. He argues that this is a devastating legal admission by the left that AR15s are in common use and cannot be banned under Heller/Bruen.
https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1801628918249582662
Although Cargill was centered around firearms, it didn’t involve any arguments over whether the Second Amendment protects a right to own bump stocks, specifically, or machine guns, generally.
Rather, the question in this case was far more simplistic: Is a bump stock device a machine gun, in the first place?
It sends an important message that there’s no end run around—or loophole through—the democratic process. If Congress wants to change federal law, it must do so itself, through the legislative process and with its members bearing the political consequences of unpopular or unconstitutional laws.
And, in that sense, Cargill is a victory that reverberates far beyond the Second Amendment.
It’s a win for the rule of law and constitutional government.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/06/14/ ... advocates/
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Re: SCOTUS Rules Against ATF on Bumpstocks
it came to mind that the "post office" being off limits was a regulation from a government agency too ...
however
this is hilarious
All Bump Stocks Lost In Boating Accidents Back In 2017 Miraculously Wash Up On Shore
https://babylonbee.com/news/all-bump-st ... p-on-shore
however
this is hilarious
All Bump Stocks Lost In Boating Accidents Back In 2017 Miraculously Wash Up On Shore
https://babylonbee.com/news/all-bump-st ... p-on-shore