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Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:28 pm
by safety1
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06 ... y-gun-ban/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:fire

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:37 pm
by anygunanywhere
They quoted Grisham and Moms Demand.

I thought Fox was a legitimate news source.

But then they quoted John Lott as well.

CJ was in his usual succinct charismatic form.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:54 pm
by safety1
This report must have come from the left side
of the Fox News office. The Wild West comments
are crazy. Don't they realize Texas has had law abiding
gun owners carrying for 20 years.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:02 pm
by DevilDawg
anygunanywhere wrote:They quoted Grisham and Moms Demand.

I thought Fox was a legitimate news source.
No, they advertise themselves as Fair and Balanced. Perfect example. Let a looney from each end of the spectrum speak.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:39 pm
by oohrah
... legitimate news source.
I more and more believe there is no such thing.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:22 am
by K.Mooneyham
All mass media outlets are terrible, they are all biased, and they all have an agenda...reporting straight facts is not any of their agendas. FoxNews is a bit better, IMO, than the others, but only because they have some conservative hosts whereas all the other outlets are distinctly liberal/leftwing. Fox still has a lot of issues.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:18 am
by Srnewby
Just my opinion, but I think Fox tends to go for the sensational version of news just to get viewers/internet clicks. Most news organizations follow a somewhat similar path, but I think Fox is a little more on the sensational end. Again, just my opinion.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:03 am
by harrycallahan
The amount of 'canned' journalism is offensive. Article after article is copied almost word for word and almost nothing is an original thought.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:28 am
by Abraham
If the bill is on Abbott's desk, what's the delay in him signing it?

Personally, I won't O.C. as I don't care to be noticed, but I am curious.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:32 am
by VMI77
anygunanywhere wrote:They quoted Grisham and Moms Demand.

I thought Fox was a legitimate news source.

But then they quoted John Lott as well.

CJ was in his usual succinct charismatic form.
There are no legitimate news sources, if by legitimate you mean anything that is part of the MSM, and believe telling the truth is part of delivering news. Fox is just slightly less intolerable than the rest of them. I don't usually watch any of them....my brain and stomach can't bear it....but I occasionally have some of them imposed on me at some place like the doctor's office. Aside from the outright falsehoods and lies of omission it's like watching a cartoon level representation of reality. Even when they're taking a side I agree with I find their arguments so juvenile and incompetent it's hard to believe they're not deliberately sandbagging the debate. If they're not sandbagging most of these MSM "journalists" are so stupid it beggars belief.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:42 am
by Ruark
VMI77 wrote: There are no legitimate news sources, if by legitimate you mean anything that is part of the MSM, and believe telling the truth is part of delivering news. Fox is just slightly less intolerable than the rest of them. I don't usually watch any of them....my brain and stomach can't bear it....
You said it. I can't believe some of the stuff I hear on CNN, not just about guns but all kinds of news topics. You know, we all talk about the wonderful 1st amendment protection of free speech, and how horrible it would be to monitor and muffle the news media, but sometimes I wonder....

It's unfortunate the CJ Grisham and OCT are the "official" spokespersons for the open carry issue in Texas. :roll:

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:20 pm
by safety1
:iagree:
Ruark wrote:
VMI77 wrote: There are no legitimate news sources, if by legitimate you mean anything that is part of the MSM, and believe telling the truth is part of delivering news. Fox is just slightly less intolerable than the rest of them. I don't usually watch any of them....my brain and stomach can't bear it....
You said it. I can't believe some of the stuff I hear on CNN, not just about guns but all kinds of news topics. You know, we all talk about the wonderful 1st amendment protection of free speech, and how horrible it would be to monitor and muffle the news media, but sometimes I wonder....

It's unfortunate the CJ Grisham and OCT are the "official" spokespersons for the open carry issue in Texas. :roll:

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:25 pm
by anygunanywhere
VMI77 wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:They quoted Grisham and Moms Demand.

I thought Fox was a legitimate news source.

But then they quoted John Lott as well.

CJ was in his usual succinct charismatic form.
There are no legitimate news sources, if by legitimate you mean anything that is part of the MSM, and believe telling the truth is part of delivering news. Fox is just slightly less intolerable than the rest of them. I don't usually watch any of them....my brain and stomach can't bear it....but I occasionally have some of them imposed on me at some place like the doctor's office. Aside from the outright falsehoods and lies of omission it's like watching a cartoon level representation of reality. Even when they're taking a side I agree with I find their arguments so juvenile and incompetent it's hard to believe they're not deliberately sandbagging the debate. If they're not sandbagging most of these MSM "journalists" are so stupid it beggars belief.
Note to self. Gotta get that sarcasm smilie.

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:00 am
by Rvrrat14
Thats how activist role.....while the hard working are diligently SILENT pursuing business.

"A hard working man is often overlooked. And he is satisfield not to be recognized openly, but rather by those who know what he has done."

Re: Fox News report on Texas OC

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:46 am
by treadlightly
Interesting. The picture of the holstered handgun at the top of the article appears to be a 1911 at half-cock.

That's not as safe as either hammer down or cocked and locked, or so I think. Please tell me where I'm off base.

Hammer full down on an inertial firing pin is safe, more or less. Completely so if the weapon is drop-safe and has a firing pin block, although the act of cocking it involves the risk of accidentally (or negligently) dropping the hammer.

Cocked and locked, the safety is a thing of creative beauty. The sear is mechanically locked into engagement, and the hammer is physically blocked from moving. If there is a firing pin block, which I think is best controlled by the grip safety, not the trigger, then the gun is pretty well jammed up and not close to firing.

At half cock anything that snags the hammer sets it up to fall against half cock, which is hard on the sear, or all the way down against the firing pin, which can be hard on the unprotected ear (and other body parts).

Locking the slide is more of a protection against out-of-battery malfunction than a safety feature, although with a non-blocked firing pin it would only go off once if dropped while cocked and locked.

But half-cock as a working, deliberately engaged safety? Probably not for me.