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Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:20 pm
by Ruark
Argghhhh..... the text in SB17 addresses carrying in a vehicle:
- "SECTION 45. Section 46.02(a-1), Penal Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or
her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned
by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view, unless the person is
licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411,
Government Code, and the handgun is carried in a shoulder or belt
holster..."
So if they pass open carry, and you carry in your car, it STILL has to be in a holster.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:42 pm
by Winchster
Doesn't mention the holster has to be worn.
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Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:17 am
by locke_n_load
What the heck. That is one of the main reasons I would want to OC - I want a holster under the steering column since drawing from your hip with a seatbelt on is difficult, as well as uncomfortable. If it has to be on your hip/shoulder, dang it. Dang it dang it.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:08 am
by Target1911
It doesn't have to be in a holster....just needs to be CONSEALED. You can conceal it under towel, news paper or anything as long as the gun can not be seen from the outside looking in.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:22 am
by C-dub
Target1911 wrote:It doesn't have to be in a holster....just needs to be CONSEALED. You can conceal it under towel, news paper or anything as long as the gun can not be seen from the outside looking in.
That is true if it is concealed. However, the requirement for being in a holster is if the gun is in plain view, which would be required according to the section the OP provided if the OC law passes.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:25 am
by rogersinsel
Winchster wrote:Doesn't mention the holster has to be worn.
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I like your thought...
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:12 am
by mr1337
This is one thing I would like as well.
I haven't mounted it yet, but I picked up a
Grassburr holster and concealment cover. I'd like to be able to use it without the concealment cover for ease of access.
Ruark wrote:So if they pass open carry, and you carry in your car, it STILL has to be in a holster.
No, it specifically has to be in a belt or shoulder holster. Not any holster will do.
Hopefully they get rid of the "belt or shoulder" requirement for the holster. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Maybe I can sew some belt loops onto the Grassburr holster and call it a day.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:37 am
by Winchster
mr1337 wrote:This is one thing I would like as well.
I haven't mounted it yet, but I picked up a
Grassburr holster and concealment cover. I'd like to be able to use it without the concealment cover for ease of access.
Ruark wrote:So if they pass open carry, and you carry in your car, it STILL has to be in a holster.
No, it specifically has to be in a belt or shoulder holster. Not any holster will do.
Hopefully they get rid of the "belt or shoulder" requirement for the holster. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Maybe I can sew some belt loops onto the Grassburr holster and call it a day.
So take a standard belt holster and mount it.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:54 am
by RogueUSMC
Winchster wrote:mr1337 wrote:This is one thing I would like as well.
I haven't mounted it yet, but I picked up a
Grassburr holster and concealment cover. I'd like to be able to use it without the concealment cover for ease of access.
Ruark wrote:So if they pass open carry, and you carry in your car, it STILL has to be in a holster.
No, it specifically has to be in a belt or shoulder holster. Not any holster will do.
Hopefully they get rid of the "belt or shoulder" requirement for the holster. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Maybe I can sew some belt loops onto the Grassburr holster and call it a day.
So take a standard belt holster and mount it.
http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/Produc ... 22685&ct=e
This mounds a standard snap slide holster to your steering column...
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:58 am
by Winchster
And IANAL but that ^^^^ meets the letter of the law as i read it.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:00 am
by RogueUSMC
Winchster wrote:And IANAL but that ^^^^ meets the letter of the law as i read it.
Unless 'retention' requirements are amended...but then what constitutes 'retention'? Active retention?...passive retention?
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:16 am
by joelamosobadiah
RogueUSMC wrote:Winchster wrote:And IANAL but that ^^^^ meets the letter of the law as i read it.
Unless 'retention' requirements are amended...but then what constitutes 'retention'? Active retention?...passive retention?
A piece of scotch tape over the top...
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:37 am
by RogueUSMC
Diggin' the screen name dude...
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Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:09 pm
by mr1337
RogueUSMC wrote:Winchster wrote:mr1337 wrote:This is one thing I would like as well.
I haven't mounted it yet, but I picked up a
Grassburr holster and concealment cover. I'd like to be able to use it without the concealment cover for ease of access.
Ruark wrote:So if they pass open carry, and you carry in your car, it STILL has to be in a holster.
No, it specifically has to be in a belt or shoulder holster. Not any holster will do.
Hopefully they get rid of the "belt or shoulder" requirement for the holster. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Maybe I can sew some belt loops onto the Grassburr holster and call it a day.
So take a standard belt holster and mount it.
http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/Produc ... 22685&ct=e
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This mounds a standard snap slide holster to your steering column...
I don't want a steering column holster though. It would be much more convenient for it to be mounted beside my leg. Without removing the "belt or shoulder" requirements for the holster, I wouldn't be able to use a very nice, active retention (thumb snap) holster that is very securely mounted unless the firearm remains concealed. Concealment would create a burden when drawing from such holster.
I guess my point is that there are practical applications that should be lawful that don't fall into the subset of holsters that are "belt or shoulder" holsters.
Re: Open carry in vehicles
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:31 pm
by RogueUSMC
My bad...it was Locke_n_load that was wanting the steering column thing...