What are you thinking?baseballguy2001 wrote:Nice work compiling all that data.
Confirms what I've been thinking all session long -- see you in 2017.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
I'm thinking that Strauss is going to succeed again in stuffing gun bills he doesn't like, and the voters be hanged.safety1 wrote:What are you thinking?baseballguy2001 wrote:Nice work compiling all that data.
Confirms what I've been thinking all session long -- see you in 2017.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goesThe Annoyed Man wrote:I'm thinking that Strauss is going to succeed again in stuffing gun bills he doesn't like, and the voters be hanged.safety1 wrote:What are you thinking?baseballguy2001 wrote:Nice work compiling all that data.
Confirms what I've been thinking all session long -- see you in 2017.
to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one
man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
HB910 (House version of SB17) passed the house and was sent to the Senate and has been sent to Committee there so that one is out of the control of the House Calendars committee now however it's still stuck.safety1 wrote:SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goesThe Annoyed Man wrote:I'm thinking that Strauss is going to succeed again in stuffing gun bills he doesn't like, and the voters be hanged.safety1 wrote:What are you thinking?baseballguy2001 wrote:Nice work compiling all that data.
Confirms what I've been thinking all session long -- see you in 2017.
to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one
man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
I'll wait 'till after this session ends to articulate what I think about the inefficient practices of this legislature. Considering the 6000 + bills still on file this session, and assuming maybe 20% of those bills have enough teeth to be considered, with 14 days or so left, they'd have to process approx. 90 bills per day before the deadline. Good luck with that!safety1 wrote:What are you thinking?baseballguy2001 wrote:Nice work compiling all that data.
Confirms what I've been thinking all session long -- see you in 2017.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
SB11 and SB17 made it to the House in late March. After that they have to be sent to committee (hasn't happened yet), then to Calendars (controlled by Strauss) and then to the floor for a vote. That path is not likely to happen at this point.safety1 wrote:SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goes
to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one
man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
HB910 was passed by the House and was received by the Senate on 4/21 (nearly a month after the House received the Senate versions of the bills). It has been referred to the State Affairs Committee where it is sitting currently. From there it has to pass out of committee, to a floor vote and then either back to the House for consent (not through Calendars) if there are changes to the bill, or onto the Governor if it passes as is. This is the more likely path.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
If you look at the number of items that wind up on the Local Calendar (or Local Consent) which seems to be reserved for the least contentious bills, A LOT will get pushed through in pretty short order. It is many of the contentious bills that will take a bit more time and have more floor attention in both chambers.K5GU wrote: I'll wait 'till after this session ends to articulate what I think about the inefficient practices of this legislature. Considering the 6000 + bills still on file this session, and assuming maybe 20% of those bills have enough teeth to be considered, with 14 days or so left, they'd have to process approx. 90 bills per day before the deadline. Good luck with that!
Frankly, I'm glad to some extent, that the founders of Texas set up our Constitution to make it hard for the Legislature to do much.
Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
Both SB 11 and SB 17 were assigned to the House Committee on Homeland Security & Public Safety, one week ago today.Papa_Tiger wrote:SB11 and SB17 made it to the House in late March. After that they have to be sent to committee (hasn't happened yet), then to Calendars (controlled by Strauss) and then to the floor for a vote. That path is not likely to happen at this point.
Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
When just ONE person can control legislation like that, particularly on a bill with broad support and that has sailed through the committees and both legislative bodies, it's a blatant corruption and disregard of the concept of "democracy."The Annoyed Man wrote: I'm thinking that Strauss is going to succeed again in stuffing gun bills he doesn't like, and the voters be hanged.
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Why is it stuck? What's the problem?jerry_r60 wrote: HB910 (House version of SB17) passed the house and was sent to the Senate and has been sent to Committee there so that one is out of the control of the House Calendars committee now however it's still stuck.
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I don't think anyone not plugged into the "inside" of congress knows that answer.Ruark wrote:Why is it stuck? What's the problem?jerry_r60 wrote: HB910 (House version of SB17) passed the house and was sent to the Senate and has been sent to Committee there so that one is out of the control of the House Calendars committee now however it's still stuck.
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This is the path I was referring to that bypasses Strauss....and I agree the most likely. Maybe our guys (House-Rs) don't like it, because it don't have the amendments HB910 does, and trying to add them would kill it. I'd take it and run....a win is a win is a win. If more places (businesses) prohibited carry over it, I'll find other places to do business. (correction, I apologize. I stated the wrong bills. I should have said HB910 was already to Committee not SB17 & 11.Papa_Tiger wrote:SB11 and SB17 made it to the House in late March. After that they have to be sent to committee (hasn't happened yet), then to Calendars (controlled by Strauss) and then to the floor for a vote. That path is not likely to happen at this point.safety1 wrote:SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goes
to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one
man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
HB910 was passed by the House and was received by the Senate on 4/21 (nearly a month after the House received the Senate versions of the bills). It has been referred to the State Affairs Committee where it is sitting currently. From there it has to pass out of committee, to a floor vote and then either back to the House for consent (not through Calendars) if there are changes to the bill, or onto the Governor if it passes as is. This is the more likely path.
Yes, time is running out, but as it is frequently said, if it weren't for the last minute nothing would get done. There is still some hope. I'm not giving up yet.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
They better hurry. The Local and Consent Calendars deadlines begin tomorrow.Papa_Tiger wrote:If you look at the number of items that wind up on the Local Calendar (or Local Consent) which seems to be reserved for the least contentious bills, A LOT will get pushed through in pretty short order. It is many of the contentious bills that will take a bit more time and have more floor attention in both chambers.K5GU wrote: I'll wait 'till after this session ends to articulate what I think about the inefficient practices of this legislature. Considering the 6000 + bills still on file this session, and assuming maybe 20% of those bills have enough teeth to be considered, with 14 days or so left, they'd have to process approx. 90 bills per day before the deadline. Good luck with that!
Frankly, I'm glad to some extent, that the founders of Texas set up our Constitution to make it hard for the Legislature to do much.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
Both SB 11 & SB 17 were referred to Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee on 05/05/15, a week ago today. And as far as I can tell, they have not scheduled hearing the 2 bills this week. In fact, they have only 1 scheduled meeting this week, which was today, according to TLO's schedule of hearings for this week.safety1 wrote:SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goes to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
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Re: Close to end of session, feeling blue - are you also??
The House Committee on Homeland Security & Public Safety already held hearings on the House companions to SB 11 and SB 17, so the committee won't hold hearings on SB 11 or SB 17. They just have to vote the bills out of committee, and such votes aren't publicly scheduled.joe817 wrote:Both SB 11 & SB 17 were referred to Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee on 05/05/15, a week ago today. And as far as I can tell, they have not scheduled hearing the 2 bills this week. In fact, they have only 1 scheduled meeting this week, which was today, according to TLO's schedule of hearings for this week.safety1 wrote:SB11 & SB17 already made it to committee? Which should be a Pro 2A committee right? .....if it goes out of committee it goes to the floor for a vote...correct? How is Strauss going to stop that? Maybe I don't know how the process works, but NO WAY one man is going to hold up the entire show when BOTH chambers already had favorable votes on these bills. Gotta be more to it than that.
I've tried very hard to learn about the legislative process this session, and the more I learn, the more I realize what I don't know.
To me, it's a puzzle, wrapped in an enigma, encased in a puzzle, all inside a dichotomy....if that makes sense.