Out of state CCW and HB 910

[slm266]

Pardon me if this has already been asked, i tried to search for such a topic but i was wondering on thoughts of whether this would affect the CCW permit for those of us who hold out of state permits. I'm not looking for a discussion on whether or not everyone should have a texas CHL, when my Virginia license expires i will be getting a texas CHL. (I am eligible for one and dont have a problem doing the course/shooting, but its not an expense i want to make right now as I am not working currently.)

Section 411.173(b), Government Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(b)AA The governor shall negotiate an agreement with any other
state that provides for the issuance of a license to carry a
[concealed] handgun under which a license issued by the other state
is recognized in this state or shall issue a proclamation that a
license issued by the other state is recognized in this state if the
attorney general of the State of Texas determines that a background
check of each applicant for a license issued by that state is
initiated by state or local authorities or an agent of the state or
local authorities before the license is issued. For purposes of
this subsection, "background check" means a search of the National
Crime Information Center database and the Interstate
Identification Index maintained by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.

It sounds like the reciprocity wont change...

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[TXBO]

This bill has no effect on reciprocity. Welcome to the forum.

[Tracker]

While it is currently illegal to open carry in Texas any Texan CHL holder can go to Oklahoma and legally open carry right now. Texas open carry law, basically, will be no different than Oklahoma. Out of state CHL holders will be able to open carry in Texas. There's only a few that don't allow some form of open carry http://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/map-where- ... egal-1715/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Texas honors these states, even if we don't have a reciprocity agreement with that other state http://www.reverenddan.com/images/TXCHL_Honored.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[slm266]

While it is currently illegal to open carry in Texas any Texan CHL holder can go to Oklahoma and legally open carry right now. Texas open carry law will be no different.

I was making sure that there wasnt some amendment that forced you to specifically have a texas CHL (rather than an out of state permit) in order to open carry here under the new law.

[Tracker]

While it is currently illegal to open carry in Texas any Texan CHL holder can go to Oklahoma and legally open carry right now. Texas open carry law will be no different.

I was making sure that there wasnt some amendment that forced you to specifically have a texas CHL (rather than an out of state permit) in order to open carry here under the new law.

no. you'll just be allowed to open carry or conceal carry with a permit. see the edit I made to my first response.

Here's example of why I'm in favor of open carry: My 25 year old daughter has her CHL and she refuses to carry inside the waste band (IWB) so she carries in a separate sipped pouch in her purse. I paid for her to have hundreds of hours with a self defense firearms instructor. Police women go to this instructor to supplement their training. IOW may daughter is well trained. But she's still a girl who wants cute cloths so she won't buy pants two sizes too big. With open carry she intends to carry in an OWB and pull a shirt over the gun. She's not going to buy a baggy shirt.

Myself, I'll still carry the way I'm used to most of the time, certainly when out shopping or eating out with the family. Because it's more discreet, normally, I carry in a cell phone holster but would rather carry OWB my larger Sig and pull a shirt over it. Texas doesn't have a no printing law but I've talked to police Sargent (who was also a very pro CHL advocate and the departments shooting instructor) at a citizen's police academy about this. When I put the gun inside my front pocket it printed enough that this officer said he would have to charge for that amount of printing. What is too obvious that a person has a gun is too subjective in the eyes of an officer as far as I'm concerned. OC eliminates that subjectivity.

[NotRPB]

While it is currently illegal to open carry in Texas any Texan CHL holder can go to Oklahoma and legally open carry right now. Texas open carry law will be no different.

I was making sure that there wasnt some amendment that forced you to specifically have a texas CHL (rather than an out of state permit) in order to open carry here under the new law.

no. you'll just be allowed to open carry or conceal carry with a permit. see the edit I made to my first response.

Here's example of why I'm in favor of open carry: My 25 year old daughter has her CHL and she refuses to carry inside the waste band (IWB) so she carries in a separate sipped pouch in her purse. I paid for her to have hundreds of hours with a self defense firearms instructor. Police women go to this instructor to supplement their training. IOW may daughter is well trained. But she's still a girl who wants cute cloths so she won't buy pants two sizes too big. With open carry she intends to carry in an OWB and pull a shirt over the gun. She's not going to buy a baggy shirt.

Myself, I'll still carry the way I'm used to most of the time, certainly when out shopping or eating out with the family. Because it's more discreet, normally, I carry in a cell phone holster but would rather carry OWB my larger Sig and pull a shirt over it. Texas doesn't have a no printing law but I've talked to police Sargent (who was also a very pro CHL advocate and the departments shooting instructor) at a citizen's police academy about this. When I put the gun inside my front pocket it printed enough that this officer said he would have to charge for that amount of printing. What is too obvious that a person has a gun is too subjective in the eyes of an officer as far as I'm concerned. OC eliminates that subjectivity.

At least one young lady in my church, a CHL has the same "style" thing. Not going to dress baggy, and some elderly ladies purse carry at my church, which IMHO is more dangerous since it is more risky to purse carry to stop a purse snatcher, than to belt carry openly with maybe an unbuttoned top shirt which might partly cover it, and stop one who already has or is struggling over the purse, The trained young stylish lady can carry now.

I'll still carry concealed, except for doing yard work, as I always have done for years, but when I step into the street to leaf blow, or go across the street to talk to a neighbor in their front yard, (they make me home made bread and jelly and wave me across when they see me doing yard work) I don't have to put a shirt back on.

[Overthehill]

While I am not, by any means, a lawyer it is my clear understanding and agreement with other answers to your questions that you may continue to concealed carry with the Virginia license until 910 passes and then carry either concealed or openly after passage of 910 occurs. I know of several people who carry with Virginia or Arizona licenses at this time and intend to continue with them into the future for varying reasons from financial, time requirements for Texas, etc.

[Greybeard]

"When I put the gun inside my front pocket it printed enough that this officer said he would have to charge for that amount of printing."

Since OC would not go into effect until 2016, that "training" officer needs to get his act current with the change made 2 years ago before spewing such garbage. And then try to explain how such INSIDE a front pocket constitutes "intentional display" in a public place.

[Taypo]

"When I put the gun inside my front pocket it printed enough that this officer said he would have to charge for that amount of printing."

Since OC would not go into effect until 2016, that "training" officer needs to get his act current with the change made 2 years ago before spewing such garbage. And then try to explain how such INSIDE a front pocket constitutes "intentional display" in a public place.

If there were a "printing too much" charge, half the cops I come in contact with would be writing themselves tickets. Nothing but respect for the job they do, but the folks who do the worst job of concealing in street clothes are usually carrying a badge too IMO

[K.Mooneyham]

"When I put the gun inside my front pocket it printed enough that this officer said he would have to charge for that amount of printing."

Since OC would not go into effect until 2016, that "training" officer needs to get his act current with the change made 2 years ago before spewing such garbage. And then try to explain how such INSIDE a front pocket constitutes "intentional display" in a public place.

I'd like to know what law the policeman would cite when making the arrest. And since I already know the answer to my question (there isn't one), I'd say he was just using intimidation, knowing the charge would be thrown out but using the threat of hauling Greybeard off to jail, having an arrest record, time spent getting booked, etc. I support the police fully going after actual criminals in our society, but this is the sort of thing that puts police in a very bad light.

[SA_Steve]

I get a kick out of these 'know my rights' folks.
The LEO can do pretty much what he pleases including a rough prone out arrest.
The judge may agree that you have rights if he/she is a mind to and if you have a lawyer. Gotta pay the admission fee to the legal industry/union/cartel.