How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:28 pm
by mr1337
Disclaimer: I'm just scoping for opinions here, and am not looking for legal advice. Nor should anyone seek legal advice from a public internet forum.
With that out of the way, I'm not a CHL holder yet, so I'm not carrying (even though I could in my vehicle), but I want to plan ahead for when I do get my CHL. I've seen Colion Noir's method of CC in a vehicle where he has a holster between the seat and the center console and puts a hat on it to conceal the grip. I've also seen the method where people will mount a holster on the side of the center dashboard (where your legs go). I like the idea of the dash method better. I've seen videos where the gun is concealed due to the fact that your legs are blocking view of the firearm. But, is that concealed enough to meet the requirements of the law? If someone can't see it from the outside, is it concealed? Or does it have to be concealed from the view of the people on the inside as well?
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Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:53 pm
by Dave2
In my opinion (which is free, worth what you paid for it, and not legal advice), you just can't see it from the outside. That said, do you really want to rely on a system that requires you to keep your leg held "just so"? Seems like it'd be pretty easy to mess up, especially with shorts season approaching.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:15 pm
by Abraham
If it's available to be seen when you exit the vehicle - it's not concealed adequately.
Think of an LEO shining his light around in your vehicle...will he be able to see a gun butt or ...? If he can, you're taking a ride.
Concealing isn't that difficult a concept.
Got a paper sack?
Got a tackle box?
Got a glove box?
You get the idea I'm sure.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:55 pm
by RetNavy
While waiting for mine I watched the same video and decided that my center console was just fine, thought about the door pocket but it LEO looked from other side would see it
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:18 pm
by nightmare69
When I drive through a rough part of town or I just feel uneasy I use Colion Noirs method. I'm sure it's legal cause he is a lawyer in Houston and a NRA commentator.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:14 pm
by C-dub
It is not concealed enough for me and the title says it all. "Mostly Concealed." Mostly is not enough for me. And what do you do when exiting? I'm guessing you take it with you. That will mean removing the gun from that holster and placing into another holster and all over again each time you exit and return to the vehicle. That is also too much unnecessary handling for my taste.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:39 pm
by steveincowtown
I have a tint exception from Texas DPS and have my windows dark enough not to sweat it.
Tucked between the seat and console for me.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:44 pm
by C-dub
steveincowtown wrote:I have a tint exception from Texas DPS ...
What is that? I've never heard about such a thing.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:49 pm
by Selcouth
Here's where I keep mine while traveling. Car is a 2005 GTO.
I keep mine in the map pocket. The gun fits snug enough to not move, but enough for me to cross draw in case it's needed.
I took this in the garage so lighting is not the best. You can kind of make out the sights
Don't know if this placement would work for you, but it works for me.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:25 am
by RPBrown
When I travel more than 100 miles, I will put mine in the map pocket and I have a small towel to put over it if I exit the vehicle UNLESS, I am in my truck and have my soft sided briefcase, then its in there between the seats. If its just around town or less than 100 miles its on my body.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:42 pm
by TexasVet
nightmare69 wrote:When I drive through a rough part of town or I just feel uneasy I use Colion Noirs method. I'm sure it's legal cause he is a lawyer in Houston and a NRA commentator.
What method is it ? Do you have a link ? He is a funny guy..
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:14 am
by CoffeeNut
TexasVet wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:When I drive through a rough part of town or I just feel uneasy I use Colion Noirs method. I'm sure it's legal cause he is a lawyer in Houston and a NRA commentator.
What method is it ? Do you have a link ? He is a funny guy..
His method is to wedge it between the seat and the center console, then put your hat over the butt of the gun. I do it from time to time and it works well.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:20 am
by nightmare69
TexasVet wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:When I drive through a rough part of town or I just feel uneasy I use Colion Noirs method. I'm sure it's legal cause he is a lawyer in Houston and a NRA commentator.
What method is it ? Do you have a link ? He is a funny guy..
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On my phone so if the link don't work just search YouTube for Colion noir car carry.
Re: How concealed is concealed enough? (vehicle holster)
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:31 am
by steveincowtown
C-dub wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:I have a tint exception from Texas DPS ...
What is that? I've never heard about such a thing.
Exemptions are available based on a WIDE variety of medical conditions. My eyes show some sun damage (like pretty much 90% of society's eyes do) and I was able to get exemptions to help reduce future damage.
Below are the exemptions to Window Tint requirements.
Vehicles used to transport passengers on a regular basis for a fee, (i.e., taxi, limousine, and buses).
Vehicles that are maintained by a law enforcement agency and used for law enforcement purposes.
Vehicles used by persons with medical permits. Drivers of these vehicles must present a letter of authorization from the Texas Department of Public Safety to gain this exemption.
Motorists may request a medical exemption from the Texas Department of Public Safety by submitting an application and a signed statement or prescription from a licensed physician or licensed optometrist. This statement should state that it is his or her opinion that the exemption is necessary to safeguard the motorist’s health.