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NRA Basic Personal Protection in the Home class

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:09 pm
by TraCoun
Charles Cotton and I will be conducting an NRA Personal Protection in the Home class on 11/10 and 11/18/06.
11/10 will go from 6:00 PM until about 9:00 PM
11/18 wil go from 8:00 AM until 5:00 PM-ish
Visit ArGentTraining.com to get more info or send either of us a PM

Thanx,
TraCoun

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:00 pm
by Crossfire
Are you guys aware of anyone in the area teaching the new Personal Protection Outside the Home?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:03 pm
by Lumberjack98
Do these two dates comprise one class? Or is the 11/18/06 a stand alone class?

One class ...

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:03 pm
by TraCoun
Lumberjack,
The two sessions make up one class. The first (Friday) will be roughly 3 hours or so, totally classroom. The second (Saturday) will be 7 or 8 hours, partly classroom and partly range. We split it into 2 days to give us more range time.
Please visit http://www.ArGentTraining.com for more details.
Thanx,
TraCoun

PP Outside the Home

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:06 pm
by TraCoun
llwatson wrote:Are you guys aware of anyone in the area teaching the new Personal Protection Outside the Home?
il ...
As of right now, to the best of my knowledge, NRA is early in the process of getting instructors qualified. I have no idea when it will be available for the general public, but it will probably be at least a few months. Charles may have a better handle on it.
Thanx,
TraCoun

Re: One class ...

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:54 pm
by Lumberjack98
TraCoun wrote:Lumberjack,
The two sessions make up one class. The first (Friday) will be roughly 3 hours or so, totally classroom. The second (Saturday) will be 7 or 8 hours, partly classroom and partly range. We split it into 2 days to give us more range time.
Please visit http://www.ArGentTraining.com for more details.
Thanx,
TraCoun
Thanks for the clarification.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:12 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
llwatson wrote:Are you guys aware of anyone in the area teaching the new Personal Protection Outside the Home?
I'm going to NRA HQ from Dec. 1st through 4th for a Finance Committee Budget meeting and to get certified to teach the Personal Protection Outside the Home class. Marc and I will schedule a class soon after that.

I've gone through the student manual for that course and I have to say the NRA training division did a very good job. I'm looking forward to teaching this new course and I think it is going to be very well received.

Chas.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:25 pm
by Crossfire
Charles - Are you an NRA training counselor? I would like to get certified to instruct Personal Protection Outside the Home. I realize there are several steps in that process, so please let me know what you know about it. Thanks!

Personal Protection Outside the Home (PPO)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:39 am
by TraCoun
llwatson wrote:Charles - Are you an NRA training counselor? I would like to get certified to instruct Personal Protection Outside the Home. I realize there are several steps in that process, so please let me know what you know about it. Thanks!
il ...
Charles is not a Training Counselor, but I am. Unfortunately I can't do a PPO Instructor class until I get it, and I'm not sure when that will be.

The first step in the process is to take what is called "Basic Instructor Training". It is a prerequisite for all of the discipline classes (rifle, pistol, etc.). If you take it, it is good for a year ... which means you can take any of the discipline classes within a year without having to repeat the BIT.

I will be putting together a class schedule for the early part of next year and will be leading off with BIT. If the PPO is the only disicpline you will be interested in, I can't say how long it will be until I can do the instructor class.

Thanx,
TraCoun

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:55 am
by Crossfire
Thanks, TraCoun. I am already a Basic Pistol Instructor, but it will probably be more than a year since my certification before you are ready to go.

Just keep me informed. I saw the overview of the PPOH course, and it looks like an excellent next step for CHL holders. I definitely want to take the class, and then we will see what has to happen to become an instructor for it.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 am
by jbirds1210
TraCoun-
Please keep us informed about when your website is updated. I will check it from time to time. I am very interested in some of the NRA certifications. I wish that I could make your class next month, but there are several schedule conflicts. Thank you!
Jason

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:57 am
by Charles L. Cotton
llwatson wrote:Charles - Are you an NRA training counselor? I would like to get certified to instruct Personal Protection Outside the Home. I realize there are several steps in that process, so please let me know what you know about it. Thanks!
As Marc said, I'm an NRA Instructor, not a Training Counselor. The only reason I'm able to get certified for this new course directly at HQ is because we want at least a couple of NRA Board members certified for this entirely new course. Although drawing and shooting from a holster is not an issue for IDPA/IPSC shooters, there are a lot of people who have no experience with this type of shooting. This is often due to restrictions against drawing and shooting imposed by most commercial ranges. Since this is the first NRA course to ever teach this skill, it was felt that at least some Board members should be able to speak on the subject from personal experience if/when it comes up in any number of NRA Committee meetings. I'm honored to have been chosen for the training, though I’m not sure how I got the nod with all of the fine people we have on the Board. I suspect it may be due to the fact that I have been pushing for this course for years (some would say “badgering�) and they’re doing it to shut me up! :thumbsup:

I have no idea how long it will be before certification will be offered in all regions of the country. They are still training Master and Senior TC's now, so I believe significant progress is being made to get this course available to the public. I wholeheartedly agree that it will be a great "next step" for CHL holders who have not received advanced training. Those who shoot in action pistol matches already learned to safely draw-and-fire, but many have not had any training in self-defense shooting.

I should also point out that the NRA Personal Protection in the Home course is viewed by the NRA as a logical precursor to taking the Personal Protection Outside the Home Course, although it is not a prerequisite. So you may want to consider getting certified to teach that class while you are waiting for the new course to become available. Marc can take care of that for you.

Chas.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:07 am
by Crossfire
Thanks, Chas. I have not been able to find either instructor course offered locally, so I will be checking with y'all and, looks like, planning a trip to Houston to take care of this.

I agree that both of these are needed and definitely should be considered an important addition to the CHL instructors training. Thanks for continuing to "badger" the NRA for us!

Linda

Instructor Certification

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:59 am
by TraCoun
llwatson wrote:Thanks, Chas. I have not been able to find either instructor course offered locally, so I will be checking with y'all and, looks like, planning a trip to Houston to take care of this.

I agree that both of these are needed and definitely should be considered an important addition to the CHL instructors training. Thanks for continuing to "badger" the NRA for us!

Linda
Linda,

Roughly how long do you have to go before your 1 year is up on your certification? I might be able to work my schedule to get some people through BIT and then do a PPH Instructor Class. If that sounds worthwhile, send me a PM with a rough idea of when in early 2007 would be a good time frame. The PPH Instructor class can be done in one day.

Thanx,
TraCoun

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:02 pm
by Tom
llwatson wrote:

I agree that both of these are needed and definitely should be considered an important addition to the CHL instructors training. Thanks for continuing to "badger" the NRA for us!

Linda
Linda,

OK, but let's not go overboard on this. True, it is a good thing for anyone with a CHL to know.
And perhaps CHL Instructors should have to demonstrate this skill.
However, I don't believe it should be added to the "required" shooting course for a CHL.
I know you didn't say that, but... these things can take on a life of their own once unleashed.

Kind Regards,

Tom