Houston Force-on-Force class

[Paladin]

Brian Hoffner is holding a Force-on-Force class at the end of July. I'm signed up. Just want to get the word out in case anyone else is interested.


Force on Force, Shoot or be shot! 16 Hours

This course is intense and as realistic as it gets. Students will move about and operate within a building while engaging live threats that shoot back! Extremely important concepts will be learned and validated. Low light tactics are included. This class is a must to really experience and understand what its like in a real world situation. You only get one chance in life and this is as real and as good as it gets…Be There!

Date: Sat-Sun, July 29, 30, 9am-6pm
Location: Top Gun Range, Home of Hoffners Training Academy Indoors, 5901 Beverly Hill, Houston
Tuition: 395.00
Equipment: All protective and shooting gear is provided

http://www.hoffners.com/hoffsked.htm

[therooster]

to anyone who has not done any force on force... i HIGHLY suggest doing it. it really opens your mind to what does and doesnt work. afterward the blurry line between fact and bull taught, written, and talked about in the training/"tactical" world will sudenly become clear.


can we bring our own equipment to the class?

[Paladin]

can we bring our own equipment to the class?

I don't know. Says you don't need to bring anything... but I'm gonna packup my gear and leave it in my trunk just in case. As it mentions 'low light tactics', I'm definitely bringing my Surefire E2E.

This is his contact info:

brianhoffner@hoffners.com
713-957-1200

[Paladin]

I took the training this weekend. We had a small class. 7-8 people. Hoffner's got military and police experience and he taught me a few new moves.

But the force-on-force part was priceless. It's fantastic training, plus it is a test of everything you know. We did 1 vs. 1 drills going up against a knife or a gun armed opponent in several situations. We did tactical searches (in regular light and in low light). We did team tactical searches against one or two hidden opponents. I can't count the total number of scenarios we did. We really packed a good amount of training into those 2 days.

Hoffner made all the scenarios challenging. His format is somewhat different that Gabe Suarez's FoF, but still quite good.

The first day, going up against a live opponent made me pretty apprehensive, but by the end of the second day, it was starting to become pretty methodical.

I can't emphasize enough that the training will point to holes in your techniques/abilities. And the training will give you the chance to correct those holes before you might have to do it for real. I found on the first day that my gun skills were good, my search techniques were good, but my brain just wasn't identifiying well hidden opponents in a dark cluttered enviroment. But I got much better on the second day.

I was somewhat surprised at how much marksmanship really mattered. Point shooting up close worked fine, and shooting rapidly was very useful... but being able to hit anything I saw... where I wanted... no matter how small... was a huge advantage. HUGE. Many times targets were only partly exposed. Many times, serious wounding shots were hard to get due to cover.

I had the marksmanship skills to make the shots... and people took notice... especially my opponents :)

[seamusTX]

How does this work? Do you use laser pistols?

- Jim

[Paladin]

We used airsoft replicas. All the guns in the class were Glock replicas.

[seamusTX]

Thanks for the reply.

Never have been in a gunfight, war, etc, I think dealing with the noise and muzzle flash in the dark would be unnerving. I was listening to a radio program about one of the big training schools (Gun Site, IIRC). One of their courses used movies projected on barriers as targets, and live ammo.

- Jim

[Paladin]

Thanks for the reply.

Never have been in a gunfight, war, etc, I think dealing with the noise and muzzle flash in the dark would be unnerving. I was listening to a radio program about one of the big training schools (Gun Site, IIRC). One of their courses used movies projected on barriers as targets, and live ammo.

- Jim

Even more unnerving is knowing that there is somebody out there in the dark trying to shoot you.

[seamusTX]

I've never been shot at. I've been covered with loaded weapons (carelessly). I've also been nearly killed by incompetent drivers. It just made me quietly angry.

I hope that reaction holds up if it's ever for real.

- Jim

[fm2]

That sounds like a good class to get to. I need to get in on one of his classes. I had to save my money for an ECQC class in Dallas in Sept.