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Re: Getting discouraged

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SewTexas wrote:it's not just the gun bills he's blocking this time, it's pro-life bills too, he's angering alot of people this go-round...he'll have alot of people working against him next election.
Do you think it will make a difference?
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Re: Getting discouraged

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tacticool wrote:
SewTexas wrote:it's not just the gun bills he's blocking this time, it's pro-life bills too, he's angering alot of people this go-round...he'll have alot of people working against him next election.
Do you think it will make a difference?

I think it might, if he continues through-out the session. If nothing is allowed to even get a vote, he will end up with pro-lifers and pro-gunners, (and yes, I do realize there is absolutely an overlap there) out to get him. but he may very well end up with a fight on his hands the likes of which he's never seen in his dreams....I'm already starting to see it on the homeschool lists.
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Re: Getting discouraged

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baldeagle wrote:
cling wrote:I may ruffle some feathers with this comment, but I think it needs to be said.

If your legislator voted for Straus as speaker in 2011, and you voted for him/her in 2012, and he/she voted for Straus as speaker again in 2013, then you're part of the problem.
Since Straus was elected by affirmation and not a recorded vote, how exactly would you know that?
I know that in 2011, there was a "Gang of Eight" that opposed Strauss for Speaker. My rep at the time was Van Taylor, and he was one of the eight. I believe Ken Paxton was the one running against Strauss for Speaker. Unfortunately, in 2013, they decided not to oppose him since it was a lost cause. Still, if youdo your research, you can find out which reps has spoken out against Strauss in the past, even if there wasn't a recorded vote.

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Re: Getting discouraged

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Can’t Governor Perry step in and through some executive order enact some of the important bills? He is very pro 2A.
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polekitty wrote:Can’t Governor Perry step in and through some executive order enact some of the important bills? He is very pro 2A.
we don't like it when Obama does it, why on G-d's green Earth would we want it now? Oh, because it's what WE want? :roll:

What can be done is Perry and Dewhurst can start talking.

and to specifically answer your question, I don't think we have EO's in Texas, but I'm really not sure.
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polekitty wrote:Can’t Governor Perry step in and through some executive order enact some of the important bills? He is very pro 2A.
Simple answer, no. Because of the way the state constitution is written the Governor of Texas has very little authority compared to other states.
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Remember how well the HPV vaccine order turned out?
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polekitty wrote:Can’t Governor Perry step in and through some executive order enact some of the important bills? He is very pro 2A.
You DO understand the principle of separation of powers, right?
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The Governor of Texas does not have the power to issue Executive Orders. Governor is a fairly weak office in Texas.
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paperchunker wrote:The Governor of Texas does not have the power to issue Executive Orders. Governor is a fairly weak office in Texas.
Really? Somebody better tell the Governor. http://governor.state.tx.us/news/executive-order/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ETA: I agree it's a weak office and that he can't do much by executive order. But he certainly can issue them.

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Re: Getting discouraged

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TrueFlog wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
cling wrote:I may ruffle some feathers with this comment, but I think it needs to be said.

If your legislator voted for Straus as speaker in 2011, and you voted for him/her in 2012, and he/she voted for Straus as speaker again in 2013, then you're part of the problem.
Since Straus was elected by affirmation and not a recorded vote, how exactly would you know that?
I know that in 2011, there was a "Gang of Eight" that opposed Strauss for Speaker. My rep at the time was Van Taylor, and he was one of the eight. I believe Ken Paxton was the one running against Strauss for Speaker. Unfortunately, in 2013, they decided not to oppose him since it was a lost cause. Still, if youdo your research, you can find out which reps has spoken out against Strauss in the past, even if there wasn't a recorded vote.
Wonder if we could do a forum petition, and send it to Ken Paxton, to run next time again. Showing this time we understand what a big deal it really is. Maybe send copies of it to everyone in the gang of 8 and ask for it to be spread throughout the ranks. Maybe get the pro lifers on board as well with the same petition. I gotta believe, there is somehow to let the reps know, Strauss needs to go as well as others. If they know we are paying attention, maybe it will prove to work? JMHO

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Oh, and also send the info we have that the reps are not putting forth bills for vote, to the NRA and other gun groups who have given these guys A's on gun rights, and show them, they need to lose that ranking. These reps, Saying they are gun owners and love guns is getting old, when they go out the back door and tell their buddies, yup, duked them again. No votes this year again for those bills. If they lose the NRA ranking, and other rankings, maybe they won't be in office anyways, because they will get voted out next time around by the population.

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miedoso wrote:Oh, and also send the info we have that the reps are not putting forth bills for vote, to the NRA and other gun groups who have given these guys A's on gun rights, and show them, they need to lose that ranking. These reps, Saying they are gun owners and love guns is getting old, when they go out the back door and tell their buddies, yup, duked them again. No votes this year again for those bills. If they lose the NRA ranking, and other rankings, maybe they won't be in office anyways, because they will get voted out next time around by the population.
Oh boy. :cool:

Pay close attention to posts by Charles, lie the one stickied at the top and the calls to action. Rep's can't just make committees hear, vote or move on their bills.

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Re: Getting discouraged

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JKTex wrote:
miedoso wrote:Oh, and also send the info we have that the reps are not putting forth bills for vote, to the NRA and other gun groups who have given these guys A's on gun rights, and show them, they need to lose that ranking. These reps, Saying they are gun owners and love guns is getting old, when they go out the back door and tell their buddies, yup, duked them again. No votes this year again for those bills. If they lose the NRA ranking, and other rankings, maybe they won't be in office anyways, because they will get voted out next time around by the population.
Oh boy. :cool:

Pay close attention to posts by Charles, lie the one stickied at the top and the calls to action. Rep's can't just make committees hear, vote or move on their bills.
Are Strauss and Pickett not representatives? I've read Mr Cottens post. I agree with it. But I'm pretty sure, from his other post, that when groups of reps don't want a bill put forth, and they go chat with Strauss, Pickett etc. (IE when he stated that HB700 was dead because there were mean letters and calls) Then it doesn't get to the floor. Clear me up on this please. Thanks

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Re: Getting discouraged

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Before anything can be cleared up, can you point to where you're getting what you're talking about? I think maybe you've misread or misunderstood something.

BTW, the NRA and TSRA know exactly what Reps are doing.
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