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If he could go with the .40 I've got a good Glock 22 that already has night sights and several 15 round mags for sale that I could let go for a great price to a LEO.

Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

DaveT wrote:Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

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DaveT wrote:Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

I figured, but thought I'd offer just in case.

BTW, the SF models are double stack. I have one on my hip with 13+1 in it at this very moment.

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C-dub wrote:

DaveT wrote:Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

I figured, but thought I'd offer just in case.

BTW, the SF models are double stack. I have one on my hip with 13+1 in it at this very moment.

Thanks for the information, C-dub. I am not personally familiar with the SF model, I will sure pass your information on and see if that makes a difference.

Appreciate it !

DaveT wrote:

C-dub wrote:

DaveT wrote:Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

I figured, but thought I'd offer just in case.

BTW, the SF models are double stack. I have one on my hip with 13+1 in it at this very moment.

Thanks for the information, C-dub. I am not personally familiar with the SF model, I will sure pass your information on and see if that makes a difference.

Appreciate it !

Sure thing.

I'm not completely positive, but I think the magazines are the same between the SF and non-SF frames. The SF stands for short frame, not slim frame. That is the Glock 36, which only holds 6+1 rounds.

For department continuity, the SF might be an option depending on the users' hand. I do not have the largest hands around and the Glock 21SF fits my hands very well. It is just a little shorter front to back, which makes the diameter a little smaller to fit some of us guys that don't have big paws.

C-dub wrote:

DaveT wrote:

C-dub wrote:

DaveT wrote:Thanks, but the department uses .45 as it's duty issue ammo, so he needs to stick with a Glock 21. I forgot to mention it earlier, but also has to be double stack, so no SF models.

I figured, but thought I'd offer just in case.

BTW, the SF models are double stack. I have one on my hip with 13+1 in it at this very moment.

Thanks for the information, C-dub. I am not personally familiar with the SF model, I will sure pass your information on and see if that makes a difference.

Appreciate it !

Sure thing.

I'm not completely positive, but I think the magazines are the same between the SF and non-SF frames. The SF stands for short frame, not slim frame. That is the Glock 36, which only holds 6+1 rounds.

For department continuity, the SF might be an option depending on the users' hand. I do not have the largest hands around and the Glock 21SF fits my hands very well. It is just a little shorter front to back, which makes the diameter a little smaller to fit some of us guys that don't have big paws.

Thanks for the clarification !

The magazines are different. The SF mags will fit the standard frame, but the regular magazines will NOT fit the SF.

carlson1 wrote:The magazines are different. The SF mags will fit the standard frame, but the regular magazines will NOT fit the SF.

That's interesting and a little surprising for a Glock. How can one fit in the other, but not the other way around?

I just checked all my mags and there's nothing on them that designates them as SF and when I bought the extras there was no designation. They were just .45ACP 13 round mags.

The Old G21 can take old & new mags while the New G21SF can only take the new mags with the extra slot along the front of the mag. The new mags also have the mag catch/release grooves meant for the old G21.

Glock is only making one G21 mag - and they work for both styles of G21.

Old Mags will NOT work in the new G21SF as they do not have the correct mag catch/release groove.


On the other the hand if they are a Generation 4 they will interchange.

carlson1 wrote:The magazines are different. The SF mags will fit the standard frame, but the regular magazines will NOT fit the SF.

That probably explains why the department specifies one particular model. In the event that Officers might have to use each other's magazines in a bad situation, having two different types could pose a problem.

On reflection, I guess that's not much different than when I was on the job many years ago.... back in the ancient age of revolvers for duty weapons. We all carried the same model with the same caliber ammunition for the same reason.

My carry weapons are all 1911's, I am learning more about Glocks all the time. Thanks everyone, I guess the search for a 'regular' Model 21 is still on.

carlson1 wrote:The Old G21 can take old & new mags while the New G21SF can only take the new mags with the extra slot along the front of the mag. The new mags also have the mag catch/release grooves meant for the old G21.

Glock is only making one G21 mag - and they work for both styles of G21.

Old Mags will NOT work in the new G21SF as they do not have the correct mag catch/release groove.


On the other the hand if they are a Generation 4 they will interchange.

Okay, cool. So it's an old/new thing and not necessarily an SF thing. You had me worried for a second.