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‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 12:40 pm
by Tex1961
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/gun- ... e-houston/
Authorities in Houston are concerned about the rise in gun jugging, local media reports.
Not familiar with the term “jugging”?
It’s basically a stalk and steal approach criminals use to take cash from bank customers who’ve recently withdrawn money from an ATM.
They watch, wait, and then strike when the victim least suspects it or is most vulnerable.
Gun jugging is the same thing except criminals target guns instead of cash. Ranges are a popular hangout for gun juggers because shooters are coming and going all the time, and sometimes they don’t take all their firearms out of their vehicles at once.
Any firearms left behind are easy pickings.
Sgt. Tracy Hicks with Houston PD told KHOU11 that car break-ins where guns were stolen are up over 100 this year compared to the same time last year (Jan-April), totaling 754 incidents versus 646 in 2019.
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“These guys are targeting those people,” said Sgt. Tracy Hicks. “They’re also learning, why not go for more than one gun?”
Police busted two alleged gun juggers on May 12, 19-year-old Michael Parker and 19-year-old Victor Gwinn, who were wanted for questioning concerning a previous case involving stolen guns.
In their most recent heist, Parker and Gwinn followed a gun owner from a gun range to a restaurant. When the gun owner went inside to get something to eat, the teens broke inside the vehicle and stole a firearm.
Believed to be members of a local gang, the two were charged with “engaging in organized crime.”
Sgt. Hicks said that gun owners can help stop gun juggers if they properly secured their firearms in locked containers or safes when the guns remain inside an unoccupied vehicle.
“That’s something you have to live with, that your complacency was a factor in that [theft],” Hicks said, adding that “One less gun on the street is one less victim out there.”
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:27 pm
by OneGun
Never heard of this, but it is a good reason to always carry your firearm concealed on your body at all times. These descriptions sound more like a burglary then a robbery since the juggers do not accost the owner. Carrying concealed presents some problems for the Juggers. 1st, the juggers have to figure out if you have a firearm. 2nd where you keep the firearm. 3) Will you shoot if you catch them in the act. Most people will surrender cash, but a gun is another matter since the victim does not want to get shot with their own gun.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:05 pm
by dhoobler
I wonder if Sgt. Tracy Hicks understands that businesses posting 30.06 signs are providing guns for the taking left behind in parked cars.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:20 pm
by philip964
Bank Jugging sometimes involves robbery. They puncture your tire at a bank and rob you when you stop and because you noticed the flat tire.
Previous police stories have involved just breaking into every pickup truck at a Big box store till they find a gun or targeting cars or pick ups with NRA stickers, etc.
People are followed from Apple stores if they are seen carrying out a big box. When murder is a no bond offense. What is burglary of a vehicle?
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:18 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
AndyC wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:04 pm
Sounds like one needs to perform a counter-surveillance maneuver or two after leaving the range - take 3 left-turns and see who's still there, etc
Augment your normal situational awareness with a 'crazy ivan' or two if traffic/population density hinder your ability to spot a tail......
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:46 pm
by Jago668
JustSomeOldGuy wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:18 pm
AndyC wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:04 pm
Sounds like one needs to perform a counter-surveillance maneuver or two after leaving the range - take 3 left-turns and see who's still there, etc
Augment your normal situational awareness with a 'crazy ivan' or two if traffic/population density hinder your ability to spot a tail......
There are 3 big speed bumps on the way home. I take them at 40mph, anyone following me is going to stand out.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:18 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Some juggings are facilitated by a dirty bank teller who lets her gangster friends know who just made a large cash withdrawal.
Then the BG's know who to attack and how much they will get.
Another M.O. that the juggers use is to sit a little ways away from a bank, glassing (using binoculars) the exit doors from the bank.
If they see a person carrying a bank bag, or a big envelope, they assume it's full of cash.
They follow the person until the person parks and goes into a store.
Then they break into the car and steal the cash.
SIA
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:35 pm
by puma guy
Not exactly gun jugging as described, but vehicles in big box sporting goods store parking lots (ie Bass Pro, Cabela's Gander Mountain, Academy, etc.) have been targeted for quite a while during especially during hunting season when a hunter stops to shop on the way to their hunting destination. They look for ATV/UTV's in PU beds or trailers with the same or a blind on it and also PU with campers or camper trailers. They can be in and out in less than a minute.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:30 pm
by powerboatr
thats why our range has a coded gate entry. once your in...you cant get out unless gate opens and it takes a code to open it.
by then bad guys would most likely perish from FEAR of lead
thanks for letting us know about gun jugging. everyday i am surprised at the criminals and what they come up with.
if i lived in houston, i think leaving a gun in the car while i walk to the range that has a plugged barrel would be fun.. bet bad guy only shoots it once
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:02 am
by RPBrown
Not exactly jugging but then again, maybe. My neighbor's car was broken into in a parking lot a few weeks ago. Nothing but sunglasses was taken. However, the next day while they were at work their house was broken into. The thieves left behind 1 more item from the car break in, their insurance card. That's how they knew where they lived. LEO's seem to think they were targeted for something.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:00 am
by Grayling813
RPBrown wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:02 am
Not exactly jugging but then again, maybe. My neighbor's car was broken into in a parking lot a few weeks ago. Nothing but sunglasses was taken. However, the next day while they were at work their house was broken into. The thieves left behind 1 more item from the car break in, their insurance card. That's how they knew where they lived. LEO's seem to think they were targeted for something.
This is why I carry my car insurance card in my wallet, and leave nothing in the car that has address on it.
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:03 am
by powerboatr
Grayling813 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:00 am
RPBrown wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:02 am
Not exactly jugging but then again, maybe. My neighbor's car was broken into in a parking lot a few weeks ago. Nothing but sunglasses was taken. However, the next day while they were at work their house was broken into. The thieves left behind 1 more item from the car break in, their insurance card. That's how they knew where they lived. LEO's seem to think they were targeted for something.
This is why I carry my car insurance card in my wallet, and leave nothing in the car that has address on it.
and thats the other reason our state does not require you to carry your registration in your vehicle
leos can simply scan your window sticker to ensure car is registered..or GASP look up your tag number in the law enforcement system. your insurance shows up as well. but could be delayed by a few weeks if carrier fails to report lack of insurance
Re: ‘Gun Jugging’ on the Rise in Houston
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:38 pm
by Jose_in_Dallas
Grayling813 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:00 am
This is why I carry my car insurance card in my wallet, and leave nothing in the car that has address on it.
I carry a minimalist wallet as my pockets are usually full with one or two (work) phones, knife, OC spray, etc. But I understand the need for having the insurance card handy. My State Farm app on my phone has it available to me. Haven't had to show it to LEO (fingers crossed) but I've used it quite a few times for getting my car inspected. One less piece of paper I have to keep in the vehicle/wallet.