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Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:46 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
https://hoodsite.com/cell-phone-store-e ... ed-robber/

It took me a while to find the above video, which is not edited, and contains the whole DGU (Defensive Gun Use). Most news stories stop the video just as the defender points his gun at the BG's head.

The link is a 29 second video from inside a Metro PCS cell phone store in the City of Philadelphia, PA.

The store had been robbed at least twice before. The Philly LEO's stopped by on a regular basis, and sign into a log book there.

The robber enters the store, throws a bag onto the counter in front of the lone employee, and tells him to fill it with phones.
Then he turns sideways to the clerk, not observing the clerk for a second.

The clerk has great SA (situational awareness), is a lefty, carrying about 300 PM, and immediately draws and fires.

It seems like the first shot into the bad guy was a head shot, which causes him to collapse. Then the GG's next shots (2,3,4?) seem to be very left of the bad guy. Then the GG gets better situated and on target. He appears to empty his magazine into the prone BG. Some witnesses said they heard 10 shots. You can see his ejected shells landing on the store's printer.

The video isn't clear enough to tell what kind of gun the BG had. The GG's appears to be a black pistol (it's not a revolver). After he stops firing, it's not clear if his slide is locked back or not. The clerk retains his pistol, picks up his own phone, and nopes out of there.

SIA

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:06 pm
by TreyHouston
:shock: :shock:
DAAAANNNNGGGG! He got jacked up!!!

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:38 pm
by anygunanywhere
I love happy endings!

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:48 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:38 pm I love happy endings!
:iagree:

I am waiting for the interview with the criminals mother saying what a good boy he was and didn't deserve to be shot for simply robbing a place.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:51 pm
by ELB
Looks to me like clerk went to slide lock.

Good for him.

Need to put this in SD forum.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:10 pm
by On_Code
:tiphat: Well done!

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:25 pm
by warnmar10
surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:46 pm... You can see his ejected shells landing on the store's printer. ...
SIA
First round appears to be a miss, high & left. Round two looks like a head shot. Round three scores a direct hit on the printer/fax.* Round four, not sure where it landed but way left of the perp. Round five is into the printer/fax again. Round six looks like a miss. 7-16 seem to be on the mark.
*Round 3 may have passed through the printer on its way to the perp.


I'm using a browser plugin called:
Video Speed Controller
Speed up, slow down, advance and rewind any HTML5 video with quick shortcuts.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:42 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
warnmar10 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:25 pm
surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:46 pm... You can see his ejected shells landing on the store's printer. ...
SIA
First round appears to be a miss, high & left. Round two looks like a head shot. Round three scores a direct hit on the printer/fax.* Round four, not sure where it landed but way left of the perp. Round five is into the printer/fax again. Round six looks like a miss. 7-16 seem to be on the mark.
*Round 3 may have passed through the printer on its way to the perp.


I'm using a browser plugin called:
Video Speed Controller
Speed up, slow down, advance and rewind any HTML5 video with quick shortcuts.
That is pretty cool. I was trying to hit pause then play and could not figure it out at all.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:50 pm
by mescobar_rpls
Good for the employee. I pray that he does not suffer any ill effects from this.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:05 pm
by joe817
I'd say the employee needs to get him the most expensive defense attorney he can afford to hire. He kept firing after the threat had ended. Emptied his magazine on somebody down, not facing him, and was not moving.

Kind of like the pharmacist in Oklahoma, who defended, but kept on shooting after the threat was over. He then reloaded and kept firing. I think he was found guilty of manslaughter, but don't quote me on this. Keith knows this incident better than I.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:49 pm
by Allons
I wonder if the employee got fired?

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:07 pm
by Mike S
joe817 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:05 pm I'd say the employee needs to get him the most expensive defense attorney he can afford to hire. He kept firing after the threat had ended. Emptied his magazine on somebody down, not facing him, and was not moving.

Kind of like the pharmacist in Oklahoma, who defended, but kept on shooting after the threat was over. He then reloaded and kept firing. I think he was found guilty of manslaughter, but don't quote me on this. Keith knows this incident better than I.
According to the article, the authorities have "...ruled the homicide justified as self-defense."

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:39 pm
by JRG
The clerk certainly didn't wait very long to draw his weapon and fire. Good on him. He probably was on duty when the place was robbed before and was ready this time.

Joe

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:38 am
by imkopaka
Honestly a little shocked that liberal Philly didn't press charges. The victim shot first, kept firing after the robber was dead, and had no right to protect himself IMO. What was he thinking even owning a gun??? [/sarcasm]

Being serious though, he's lucky to escape charges for continuing to fire after the threat ended. Other than that, fantastic work.

Re: Philly video: GG w/good SA empties mag, kills robber DRT.

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:19 am
by flechero
I'm willing to bet that from the shooter's angle, in real time, at least 9 of 10 of us would have continued to fire [at least a few more] after the perp fell.

All this talk of the threat being over is great in an armchair scenario, but how many videos have we seen where the bg drops but continues to fight? The clerk doesn't yet know the bg is out or covering up waiting to reengage. In fact it will take the coroner's report for us to know for sure.

Lets give the GG the same benefit of the doubt that we would hope to receive if ever faced w/ this situation.