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Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:43 pm
by philip964
http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/h ... 644957.php
Long story about a robbery at a Wendy's. At least the K9 also got some good licks in on the suspect. Most on Reddit don't seem to believe the dropped gun went off by itself.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:59 am
by WTR
What do you bet that the Officers pistol has a short trigger pull with o thumb safety.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:31 am
by Liberty
WTR wrote:What do you bet that the Officers pistol has a short trigger pull with o thumb safety.
I bet there will be outrage, denial and gnashing of teeth when they name somebody's favorite gun as having a safety flaw.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:18 am
by cmgee67
If it was a pistol then I don't see how it would have if the trigger wasn't pulled. Now if it was a rifle there's a different story. Rifles can go off when dropped
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:25 am
by Jusme
Yeah, I think more than likely the officers "bumping into each other" caused one to squeeze the trigger and the gun was then dropped, after it fired due to recoil in a weak or unstable grip. JMHO
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:40 am
by Liberty
cmgee67 wrote:If it was a pistol then I don't see how it would have if the trigger wasn't pulled. Now if it was a rifle there's a different story. Rifles can go off when dropped
Depends on the gun, most guns have design features to prevent this from happening. Firing pin blocks, and light weight firing pins are features designed to prevent this from happening. Taurus has a big recall because they were susceptible, and so did Ruger with wit the LCP.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:12 am
by parabelum
"No one was
wounded, but one of the officers was
injured by
shrapnel 
after the discharge."
Huh?
I bet ol' Art will sort it all out.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:21 am
by Jusme
parabelum wrote:"No one was
wounded, but one of the officers was
injured by
shrapnel after the discharge."
Huh?
I bet ol' Art will sort it all out.
Yeah I'm also unclear on the difference between wounded and injured. Typical poor reporting. I'm betting on one officer not having a good grip, especially if he was also trying to hold onto a dog leash, and accidentally squeezing the trigger in a collision. It's a natural reaction, if you feel your gun being knocked free, that you will try to hold on to it, possibly squeezing the trigger in the process. Everything is just conjecture though, since this was just a synopsis report, and no real details will emerge until an investigation is complete.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:36 am
by bblhd672
Is this real or a Three Stooges episode?
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:05 am
by dlh
"He suddenly pulled out a gun and put it to his neck.."....and.....I was waiting for the good news....
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:26 am
by Jusme
dlh wrote:"He suddenly pulled out a gun and put it to his neck.."....and.....I was waiting for the good news....
Reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles, I won't post a link due to the racial slurs, but it was funny.
"watch it guys, he's serious"
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:28 am
by MeMelYup
Keystone copes rise again.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:46 am
by flechero
Easy...
Officer had finger on trigger when he "bumped" into the other, he squeezed his hand in reflex and fired the gun. Startled, he dropped it. The Dog, being the more properly trained leo in this incident, bit the offending officer to teach him a lesson and remind him that others were put into danger by his negligent action.
Re: Make sense of this please: gun is dropped by LEO when he bumps another officer, gun discharges, K9 bits officers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:02 am
by goose
flechero wrote:Easy...
Officer had finger on trigger when he "bumped" into the other, he squeezed his hand in reflex and fired the gun. Startled, he dropped it. The Dog, being the more properly trained leo in this incident, bit the offending officer to teach him a lesson and remind him that others were put into danger by his negligent action.
Yeah, the comments about the gun being fired before being dropped is where I suspect I'd land as well. What modern pistol, assuming it didn't have any mods that the department gun smith didn't approve, is likely to go off being dropped? We all know they are mechanical devices and mechanical devices can fail but this is pretty dang rare.
The other option is that the officer dropped it and then reached for it out of instinct. Hand hits the trigger, gun goes off, but without a good purchase on the firearm it still falls to the ground.
I like the idea of the disciplinary dog though. :-)