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911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:38 am
by rp_photo
Some here will probably disagree with me, but I applaud this man and believe that he may have saved the overdose victim from being killed, injured, or having his life needlessly ruined.
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More "Police free zones" and similar requests from other 911 callers in medical emergencies would a good thing IMHO.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:17 am
by A-R
Depending on the area and/or procedure, some EMS will not respond without a police escort. Instead the ambulance will stage in the general area until police make initial contact and clear the location.
If this guy carried through with his thinly veiled moronic threats to police, he likely would be the one wearing bracelets (based on Texas law, of course - not familiar with Oregon law).
Sec. 38.15. INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES. (a) A person commits an offense if the person with criminal negligence interrupts, disrupts, impedes, or otherwise interferes with:
(1) a peace officer while the peace officer is performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted by law;
(2) a person who is employed to provide emergency medical services including the transportation of ill or injured persons while the person is performing that duty;
(3) a fire fighter, while the fire fighter is fighting a fire or investigating the cause of a fire;
(4) an animal under the supervision of a peace officer, corrections officer, or jailer, if the person knows the animal is being used for law enforcement, corrections, prison or jail security, or investigative purposes;
(5) the transmission of a communication over a citizen's band radio channel, the purpose of which communication is to inform or inquire about an emergency;
(6) an officer with responsibility for animal control in a county or municipality, while the officer is performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted under Chapter 821 or 822, Health and Safety Code; or
(7) a person who:
(A) has responsibility for assessing, enacting, or enforcing public health, environmental, radiation, or safety measures for the state or a county or municipality;
(B) is investigating a particular site as part of the person's responsibilities under Paragraph (A);
(C) is acting in accordance with policies and procedures related to the safety and security of the site described by Paragraph (B); and
(D) is performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted under the Agriculture Code, Health and Safety Code, Occupations Code, or Water Code.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(1) that the conduct engaged in by the defendant was intended to warn a person operating a motor vehicle of the presence of a peace officer who was enforcing Subtitle C, Title 7, Transportation Code.
(d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the interruption, disruption, impediment, or interference alleged consisted of speech only.
(e) In this section, "emergency" means a condition or circumstance in which an individual is or is reasonably believed by the person transmitting the communication to be in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or in which property is or is reasonably believed by the person transmitting the communication to be in imminent danger of damage or destruction.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:35 am
by Jumping Frog
Let's see if he changes his tune if someone has a knife to his throat during an armed robbery.
Of course, a self-described anarchist, so yawn.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:45 am
by rp_photo
I agree that police should be present, but there have numerous cases of them being heavy-handed with those having medical emergencies or living with disabilities, such as the recent beating of deaf man who failed to respond to verbal commands and attempted to use sign language.
Ideally, someone from EMS would be in charge and direct the degree to which police interact.
And why am I thinking that this guy who doesn't want police in his restaurant also wouldn't want patrons carrying?
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 am
by Excaliber
This appears to be a situation where previous excesses have led to a new form of idiocy.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:04 am
by WildBill
I have a friend in Portland. He says that drug use of heroin in city parks and public areas is rampant.
Heroin cut a gash through the Pacific Northwest in the 1990s. Then prescription pills took over until prices rose. Now the percentage of those in treatment for heroin in Oregon is back up to levels not seen since the '90s — nearly 8,000 people last year — and the addicts are getting younger.
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Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:05 am
by jmra
IMHO, if you call 911 you open a door that can not be shut.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:11 am
by WildBill
What if someone in your house had a heart attack?
There would be no reason to have police show up.
Wouldn't this be a reasonable request?
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:15 am
by baldeagle
If I were the police, I would label his store a police-free zone. If crimes are committed in the store, let him deal with it.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:18 am
by rp_photo
WildBill wrote:What if someone in your house had a heart attack?
There would be no reason to have police show up.
Wouldn't this be a reasonable request?
There have been several recent cases of police shooting people's dogs in situations like this, which only adds to the family's tragedy and fuels the growing public outcry against them.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:20 am
by rp_photo
baldeagle wrote:If I were the police, I would label his store a police-free zone. If crimes are committed in the store, let him deal with it.
Calling 911 and stating concern about police being there might make sense, but openly declaring that they aren't welcome at your place of business seems unwise.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 12:31 pm
by gigag04
WildBill wrote:What if someone in your house had a heart attack?
There would be no reason to have police show up.
Wouldn't this be a reasonable request?
We got sent to heart attacks all the time. Every car had a defib and we were all CPR and defib trained. Often the radio cars were in the area way before medics since medics could be sent from the nearest station. They are also not in the bus driving around waiting on calls to drop.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:27 pm
by WildBill
gigag04 wrote:WildBill wrote:What if someone in your house had a heart attack?
There would be no reason to have police show up.
Wouldn't this be a reasonable request?
We got sent to heart attacks all the time. Every car had a defib and we were all CPR and defib trained. Often the radio cars were in the area way before medics since medics could be sent from the nearest station. They are also not in the bus driving around waiting on calls to drop.
That is good to know.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:59 pm
by Jim Beaux
I remember reading about this clown a few years back. I promise you, he would change his tune real quick if it was his neck in the noose & he needed a policeman.
Re: 911 Caller requests that no police be sent
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:37 pm
by VoiceofReason
I was going to say something about his looks but I will resist the temptation.