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Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:47 pm
by seamusTX
Early Wednesday morning a 14-year-old boy from Santa Fe (Galveston County) showed up at a hospital in Texas City with a gunshot wound.
The rest of this account is summarized from the Galveston County Daily News, reportedly, allegedly, according to a police spokesman, etc.
A 23-year-old Hispanic man was "playing with a pistol" in a home in Santa Fe Tuesday when he allegedly shot the boy. Police obtained video from an in-home surveillance system that showed the shooter tracking the victim before discharging the weapon.
The alleged shooter is charged with "injury to a child with intent to commit serious bodily injury" and was jailed on $151,000 bond.
Police are also considering charges against the victim's mother. She allegedly consulted an internet site about treatment for gunshot wounds. The victim arrived at the hospital approximately seven hours after the shooting.
This is now a worldwide story.
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A couple of things to note here:
- When a home becomes a crime scene, the police can search it with the proverbial fine-tooth comb, including video recording devices and computers. No warrants are required.
- Not calling 911 is almost always a bad decision, compared to what might happen when you do call.
- Jim
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:12 pm
by gthaustex
Amazed. Simply amazed at the sheer stupidity of people.

Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:47 pm
by C-dub
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:20 pm
by jmra
Think my signature says what I think about it.
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:17 am
by texanjoker
seamusTX wrote:Early Wednesday morning a 14-year-old boy from Santa Fe (Galveston County) showed up at a hospital in Texas City with a gunshot wound.
The rest of this account is summarized from the Galveston County Daily News, reportedly, allegedly, according to a police spokesman, etc.
A 23-year-old Hispanic man was "playing with a pistol" in a home in Santa Fe Tuesday when he allegedly shot the boy. Police obtained video from an in-home surveillance system that showed the shooter tracking the victim before discharging the weapon.
The alleged shooter is charged with "injury to a child with intent to commit serious bodily injury" and was jailed on $151,000 bond.
Police are also considering charges against the victim's mother. She allegedly consulted an internet site about treatment for gunshot wounds. The victim arrived at the hospital approximately seven hours after the shooting.
This is now a worldwide story.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... 499008.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Subscription-only link:
http://www.galvestondailynews.com/news/ ... f6878.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A couple of things to note here:
- When a home becomes a crime scene, the police can search it with the proverbial fine-tooth comb, including video recording devices and computers. No warrants are required.
- Not calling 911 is almost always a bad decision, compared to what might happen when you do call.
- Jim
While the police can go in and secure the scene, it is common practice to have the occupant sign a release to allow the search or obtain a search warrant. If you don't, they can fight to have the evidence thrown out.
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:05 pm
by seamusTX
texanjoker wrote:While the police can go in and secure the scene, it is common practice to have the occupant sign a release to allow the search or obtain a search warrant. If you don't, they can fight to have the evidence thrown out.
Of course the latter happened in the O.J. Simpson case.
I don't know if the police got a warrant or permission in this case. Even if they didn't, the people involved are in it up to their eyeballs.
- Jim
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:29 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I just posted the following comment to that article at the HoChron:
whamprod wrote:Quoting the article:
"Rodriguez then pulled the trigger, with the high-caliber bullet striking the teenager in the upper left thigh area."
Can somebody please tell me what a "high-caliber" bullet is? I've been around guns most of my 60 years, and I've never been able to figure that one out—because, if I'm going to be shot, I'd MUCH rather be shot by a .45 ACP than a .223 Remington or a .308 Winchester, both of which are smaller in caliber than a .45.
I suspect anti-gun bias and/or firearms ignorance on the part of a HoChron reporter. What are the odds? Personally, whenever I see/hear someone using the made-up term "high-caliber" (you'll NEVER hear anyone in the gun-world using that ridiculous, inaccurate, and inflated term), I automatically assume that they are fundamentally ignorant about firearms, firearm law, firearm safety, and firearm technology.
Mike Glenn and Dale Lezon, please Please PLEASE stop it. You're embarrassing yourselves. If you're ignorant about guns, that's OK. I'm ignorant about Mars landers. But if I'm going to presume to report on a Mars lander, I'll bone up on the technology and talk to some ACTUAL experts (not opinion holders) before doing so. BIG HINT: most big city police department bureaucrats are NOT experts, they're opinion holders. If you want the FACTS, talk to the people who manufacture, repair, and own firearms. Going to "opinion holders" for answers to firearms technology questions is like asking a vegan where the best steakhouse in town is. That's just dumb. To a vegan, ALL steaks are "high-caliber."
Snicker.
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:50 pm
by GeekwithaGun
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 1:40 pm
by seamusTX
...whenever I see/hear someone using the made-up term "high-caliber" (you'll NEVER hear anyone in the gun-world using that ridiculous, inaccurate, and inflated term),...
The people who run "High Caliber" gun shows several times a month in Texas are going to be severely disappointed.
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Criticizing the vocabulary of a news story is not going to change the spectacular stupidity exhibited in this incident, which will go into the catalogs of "stupid gun owner tricks."
- Jim
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:11 pm
by snorri
seamusTX wrote:surveillance system that showed the shooter tracking the victim before discharging the weapon.
That sounds more like intentional than irresponsible.
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:43 pm
by seamusTX
The mother of the year was arrested today and charged with injury to a child with intent to commit bodily injury, a third-degree felony. Her bond was set at $40,000.
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- Jim
Re: Santa Fe: Today's irresponsible gun owner
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:52 pm
by Hawk99
Yep and the gun just went off. That kid did not pull that trigger.