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An unknown number of people walked into a Florida VFW post this morning and opened fire, killing two and wounding one.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/19679 ... at-fla-vfw

Is 'demon rum' served in a VFW post?

Usually not outside. Maybe they came from a church.

The shooting occurred Sunday. It seems to have been the latest episode in an ongoing dispute involving motorcycle clubs. There are multiple "clubs" claiming the name Warlock in Florida.

http://www.google.com/news?q=winter+spr ... w+shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You meet the nicest people on a Honda bike. Or maybe not.

- Jim

Grown men acting like teenage hooligans fighting over turf.

I love to ride my V-twin (Suzuki) but never cared for any motorcycle club.

I've read it here before; don't go to dumb places, don't hang out with dumb people, and don't do dumb things.

I wouldn't rush to call the VFW "dumb," nor is Sunday morning after dawn a bad time to be out.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to predict what will attract thugs or lunatics. In this case it seems to have been fighting over the name "Warlocks." I guess trademark law was too complicated for them.

BTW, gang names and colors are dangerous territory. I vaguely remember an incident where some kids in the Chicago area were calling themselves 26, which is the name of a vicious Mexican gang. The actual gang members became annoyed with "unauthorized" graffiti and administered some street justice.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:I wouldn't rush to call the VFW "dumb," nor is Sunday morning after dawn a bad time to be out.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to predict what will attract thugs or lunatics. In this case it seems to have been fighting over the name "Warlocks." I guess trademark law was too complicated for them.

BTW, gang names and colors are dangerous territory. I vaguely remember an incident where some kids in the Chicago area were calling themselves 26, which is the name of a vicious Mexican gang. The actual gang members became annoyed with "unauthorized" graffiti and administered some street justice.

- Jim

While I agree the VFW on a Sunday morning isn't a dumb place and time, it only takes one of the three (people, place, activity) to get into truble. I believe biker gangs satisfies two, people and activity.

Club? Or criminal gang? You make the call.

seamusTX wrote:The shooting occurred Sunday. It seems to have been the latest episode in an ongoing dispute involving motorcycle clubs. There are multiple "clubs" claiming the name Warlock in Florida.

http://www.google.com/news?q=winter+spr ... w+shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You meet the nicest people on a Honda bike. Or maybe not.

- Jim

Most MC's, especially of the 1% variety, are likely to be on Hardly Ablesons.

BigGuy wrote:

seamusTX wrote:The shooting occurred Sunday. It seems to have been the latest episode in an ongoing dispute involving motorcycle clubs. There are multiple "clubs" claiming the name Warlock in Florida.

http://www.google.com/news?q=winter+spr ... w+shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You meet the nicest people on a Honda bike. Or maybe not.

- Jim

Most MC's, especially of the 1% variety, are likely to be on Hardly Ablesons.

Sound like a really upstanding bunch of people http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf ... to_be.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their website even includes a page of their currently incarcerated members (not counting the 4 new ones.) http://www.warlocksmcorlando.net/LOCKDOWN.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They are sovereign citizens who are oppressed by the strictures of bourgeois society.



- Jim