Page 1 of 2

Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:24 pm
by Moby
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-0 ... tain.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The gunfire exchange highlights a lack of rules governing the use of weapons on the high seas amid questions over how much force is legal and necessary to fight Somali piracy attacks, which targeted a record 237 ships last year. The video, presented at a shipping conference in December and leaked on the internet last month, has fueled debate over when is it acceptable to open fire -- and to keep shooting.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:43 pm
by jocat54
How much force? All that you can muster up. Good for them.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:48 pm
by Topbuilder
In this situation I say eliminate the threat. Sink the pirate 100% of the time. Take no prisoners... thats just me. :fire

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:14 pm
by AEA
:iagree:

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:20 pm
by i8godzilla
Sums it up for me.
No ship with armed guards aboard has been hijacked by Somali pirates, according to Peter Cook, chairman of the Security Association for the Maritime Industry, a group that has created an accreditation system for private guard companies. And the proportion of attacks that lead to hijackings has plummeted.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:14 pm
by BigGuy
Well, one company seems to have found economic opportunity is this situation.


Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:30 pm
by G26ster
BigGuy wrote:Well, one company seems to have found economic opportunity is this situation.

Image
I have only been on two "cruises." Both were complimentary by Uncle Sam on USS and USNS troop ships, jammed and stacked 3 high in a troop compartment for 17 and 28 days respectively. I have avoided cruises of any type successfully for the past 48 years! But for this one, I'm ready to go!!!! :biggrinjester:

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:36 pm
by Carry-a-Kimber
BigGuy wrote:Well, one company seems to have found economic opportunity is this situation.
I hope you realize this ad is satire.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:47 pm
by VMI77
Wow, read the article and listen to what those idiots from the UK have to say about "proportional" use of force....their "rate of fire" was not acceptable.....too fast apparently. To be really fair the guards should only shoot one of the pirates after one of the guards is shot, and not shoot any more of the pirates than the pirates shoot of the guards. And if the pirates are bad shots, it's not fair to have guards that are good shots. The liberal cancer has apparently destroyed the UK. It's a good thing these liberal idiots weren't around back when the Nazis were preparing to invade England....no doubt the "rate of fire" of the defending British forces would have been unacceptable to these loons.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:11 pm
by The Marshal
"Don't wish ill on your enemy... plan it."

Do the Anti Security Morons think that the Somalis are trying to come aboard to sell trinkets?
And do they actually believe that they use RPGs to fish with?
Rhetorical questions.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:23 pm
by G26ster
Carry-a-Kimber wrote: I hope you realize this ad is satire.
I don't believe anyone on this forum took it as anything other than satire.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:41 pm
by BigGuy
Carry-a-Kimber wrote:I hope you realize this ad is satire.
What!!!! NO!!
I've already mailed in my nonrefundable cash reservation fee for the Horizons IV cruse.
71 crisp new $100 bills, wrapped in typing paper so you can't tell what it is through the envelope.
They don't take check or credit cards, so you have to send cash. They said they will apply the extra $9.00 toward ammo.
Just waiting on my ticket to get here in the mail. Any day now.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:14 pm
by RoyGBiv
VMI77 wrote:The liberal cancer has apparently destroyed the UK. It's a good thing these liberal idiots weren't around back when the Nazis were preparing to invade England....no doubt the "rate of fire" of the defending British forces would have been unacceptable to these loons.
The Liberal lives his/her life poo-pooing those that would meet the enemy with force, and working to restrict the means of force available to those who would use it. But they do so knowing, KNOWING, that those who would use force WILL step forward to protect them when the wolf growls at their door. Then, and then only, those that would step forward to meet the wolf are given a temporary pass until the threat is over. They can pontificate in safety, because they will never know the terrible fear or great honor of putting their own life on the line for anyone other than the one that looks back at them from the mirror. They make my stomach turn.

2 years of mandatory military service for every able-bodied American. Without it you should be ineligible to vote, or work for a "news" service.

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 pm
by TexDotCom
RoyGBiv wrote:The Liberal lives his/her life poo-pooing those that would meet the enemy with force, and working to restrict the means of force available to those who would use it. But they do so knowing, KNOWING, that those who would use force WILL step forward to protect them when the wolf growls at their door. Then, and then only, those that would step forward to meet the wolf are given a temporary pass until the threat is over. They can pontificate in safety, because they will never know the terrible fear or great honor of putting their own life on the line for anyone other than the one that looks back at them from the mirror. They make my stomach turn.

2 years of mandatory military service for every able-bodied American. Without it you should be ineligible to vote, or work for a "news" service.

:iagree: times (supposed to be "infinity" symbol)

Re: Pirates getting shot at by contractors.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:48 pm
by SwimFan85
jocat54 wrote:How much force? All that you can muster up. Good for them.
I think the motto of Wilderness Tactical applies. Overkill never fails! :fire