MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) - A Minneapolis man says he was beaten by police as he left a downtown nightclub.
Zachary King says he was walking to his car when police noticed his gun in his waist band. He claims he told police he had a permit to carry, but they still attacked him.
“I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun. And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” said King.
Five cops beating a licensed conceal carry holder who had done nothing wrong.
Sounds like those five police officers were feeling nostalgic for the old days after Rodney King's recent obituary.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:40 pm
by C-dub
Kaching!
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:42 pm
by Jumping Frog
Just ask Erik Scott's estate how much ca-ching there is in suing the police.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:44 pm
by C-dub
Jumping Frog wrote:Just ask Erik Scott's estate how much ca-ching there is in suing the police.
You are correct. However, at least this victim survived and can give his side of what happened.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:02 pm
by philip964
"leaving a downtown nightclub" Was it also at 2 am? Was he drunk or had been drinking? Concealed means concealed. "noticed a gun in his waist band" Not in a holster? Oh. We all do that too, the not in a holster waist band thing. I'm sure he passed the attitude test too.
Sorry, I'm not the least bit sympathetic.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:07 pm
by pbwalker
philip964 wrote:"leaving a downtown nightclub" Was it also at 2 am? Was he drunk or had been drinking? Concealed means concealed. "noticed a gun in his waist band" Not in a holster? Oh. We all do that too, the not in a holster waist band thing. I'm sure he passed the attitude test too.
Sorry, I'm not the least bit sympathetic.
So you are saying he deserved to get beat? You sure are making a lot of assumptions here...
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:17 pm
by C-dub
I think OC is legal in MN and I don't know about their restrictions on bars and guns.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:11 pm
by RPB
City of Austin Police Dept settlements seem to generally pay 250,000 to 750,000 in shootings/deaths, 175,000 if you are just shot and wounded, and Minneapolis pays 75,000 if they just tase you ... http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/sett ... n-e-austin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thursday's $750,000 settlement with the Sanders family and a separate $175,000 settlement with the victim's friend who was wounded by police gunfire on May 11,2009, will likely help alleviate some of the bitter feelings, ...
CITY (Minneapolis ) PAYS 75K TO SETTLE TASER LAWSUIT - YouTube
The city paid $75,000 to Ruiz in March 2010, plus $45,066 for his attorney's fees to settle the suit
King suffered a concussion after five officers beat him on Father’s Day night. King says video of the assault was taken by a bystander. He says it all started when police noticed a bulge near his waist band.
“I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun. And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” said King.
So he wasn't carrying in the waistband. And while the initial statement in the article did make it sound like his weapon was visible, the later sentences make it sound more like they noticed a bulge. Its also sounds like after they noticed the bulge (but before they confirmed their suspicions) he stated he had a permit and it was in fact a gun in his waistband/holster.
It will be very interesting to see if any video did in fact capture the encounter as is stated in the article.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:29 am
by anygunanywhere
philip964 wrote:"leaving a downtown nightclub" Was it also at 2 am? Was he drunk or had been drinking? Concealed means concealed. "noticed a gun in his waist band" Not in a holster? Oh. We all do that too, the not in a holster waist band thing. I'm sure he passed the attitude test too.
Sorry, I'm not the least bit sympathetic.
Just...wow.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:19 am
by philip964
anygunanywhere wrote:
philip964 wrote:"leaving a downtown nightclub" Was it also at 2 am? Was he drunk or had been drinking? Concealed means concealed. "noticed a gun in his waist band" Not in a holster? Oh. We all do that too, the not in a holster waist band thing. I'm sure he passed the attitude test too.
Sorry, I'm not the least bit sympathetic.
Just...wow.
Anygunanywhere
Ok it was in a waist band holster and it was not visible the initial report was incorrect. On new evidence I am moderating my earlier view. The incident has racial overtones as the CHL holder is Black and the police appeared to be Caucasian.
http://gillreport.com/2012/06/video-pol ... a-firearm/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; video shows very little however, it does show a protest march in support of the CHL holder, that doesn't happen often.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:22 am
by Heartland Patriot
jrandyw wrote:From the article linked above:
King suffered a concussion after five officers beat him on Father’s Day night. King says video of the assault was taken by a bystander. He says it all started when police noticed a bulge near his waist band.
“I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun. And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” said King.
So he wasn't carrying in the waistband. And while the initial statement in the article did make it sound like his weapon was visible, the later sentences make it sound more like they noticed a bulge. Its also sounds like after they noticed the bulge (but before they confirmed their suspicions) he stated he had a permit and it was in fact a gun in his waistband/holster.
It will be very interesting to see if any video did in fact capture the encounter as is stated in the article.
Does anyone know if Minnesota is one of those "printing is a crime" states? There are a few, I just don't know which ones.
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:13 am
by pbwalker
philip964 wrote:The incident has racial overtones as the CHL holder is Black and the police appeared to be Caucasian.
wow...
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:36 am
by clarionite
Why is it automatically racial... Why can't it just be full of Idiot Overtones?
Re: Minn. Police Beat Man For Gun, Despite Permit
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:48 am
by Rex B
If the CHL victim was Caucasian, there would be no marching in the streets.
Just sayin'...