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FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:50 am
by seamusTX
In Miami Saturday a police officer fatally shot a naked attacker who was chewing on the face of another man. The attacker continued to assault the victim after being shot once.
The victim was hospitalized in critical condition.
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The incident was captured on video, which frankly I don't want to watch.
- Jim
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:59 am
by A-R
As anyone who's read the scholarly and expert analysis of Max Brooks will recognize, this is just the beginning - what happens next all depends on whether this can be effectively contained and locked down or whether it gets out, spreads rapidly, and becomes a full zombie apocalypse
Better start storing water/food/ammo ... just in case ...
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:08 am
by seamusTX
I thought simply shooting zombies didn't slow them down.
This sounds like a really bad combination of drugs. There are certain drug reactions that make people remove their clothes—sometimes tear them off. Supposedly they feel hot or feel like insects are crawling under their skin.
I remember a few years ago a passenger in a car on I-45 jumped out, removed all this clothes, and ran around in traffic until he was struck and killed by a vehicle. According to the toxicology report, he had everything from alcohol to LSD in his system.
- Jim
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:16 am
by JJVP
seamusTX wrote:In Miami Saturday a police officer fatally shot a naked attacker who was chewing on the face of another man. The attacker continued to assault the victim after being shot once.
The victim was hospitalized in critical condition.
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The incident was captured on video, which frankly I don't want to watch.
- Jim
The video does not show much. The view is obstructed by elevated rail tracks. You only see a police car coming the wrong way on an off ramp and getting out of the car. This follows by several other patrol cars coming in to assist. Then they zoom in and all you can see is two sets of naked legs. One set never moves, the other moves occasionally. Someone is rendering assistance to the guy that is injured. He finally sits, but they blurred his upper body, so you can't see anything. Looks to me that both guys were naked.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:27 am
by speedsix
...son of Hannibal...
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:27 am
by seamusTX
JJVP wrote:Looks to me that both guys were naked.
Thanks for reviewing the video. I'll have to check it out after breakfast.
I see a lot of men walking around in shorts with no shirt (other than at the beach). It's not something I ever did, but whatever.
Also some colors just blend in with skin.
There was a big street festival on the other side of that parkway. I don't know if this incident had anything to do with it. There's always an uptick in bizarre behavior when we have that kind of event.
- Jim
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:48 am
by Heartland Patriot
PCP can make folks think all kinds of things...including that they are "invincible". And it can take some serious damage to the person's body before it catches up to their altered nervous system and brain that "hey, buddy, we've got problems here". And that is just ONE drug that can do that sort of thing to human beings...there are so many more out there just as bad. Sorry the LEO had to witness that, glad he was able to stop that.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:01 pm
by ELB
seamusTX wrote:...
This sounds like a really bad combination of drugs. There are certain drug reactions that make people remove their clothes—sometimes tear them off. Supposedly they feel hot or feel like insects are crawling under their skin.
- Jim
Perhaps "excited delirium" is what you are thinking of? Rory Miller (who works as a prison officer) describes it in his book
Facing Violence.
Excited delirium is something that cops, Emergency Room doctors and coroners are entirely too familiar with. It usually presents as an enraged, frothing, naked man howling and growling and breaking glass, sometimes attacking anything he can reach. The nakedness is the man’s reaction to a skyrocketing body temperature (liver temperature of 108F was recorded at one autopsy). I don’t know why they break glass. They can be enormously strong and fast. My team dealt with one who pulled six concrete screws out of the wall with his fingers in order to break a stainless steel mirror to use as a weapon. I don’t know what causes it. Most are on stimulants, cocaine or meth or PCP, but not all. Most have a history of stimulant abuse but not all. Some have a history of mental illness, but not all. Most are fine when they finally get to sleep and wake up, except for whatever harm they did themselves smashing fists through glass. But not all. The 108-degree liver temperature was not survivable, I think.
Miller, Rory (2011-04-01). Facing Violence: Preparing for the Unexpected (p. 88). NBN_Mobi_Kindle. Kindle Edition.
I have seen reports that some dispute that "excited delirium" actually exists, that it is just a police excuse for excessive force.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:19 pm
by RPB
After a bit off face time, he was unfriended
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:42 pm
by seamusTX
ELB wrote:Perhaps "excited delirium" is what you are thinking of?
Yes. It's still debatable whether that actually is a medical term. It certainly occurs often enough to seem like a syndrome.
- Jim
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:50 pm
by speedsix
...didja happen to see a parked unicycle nearby???
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:19 pm
by Jumping Frog
I think the guy needed a little Chianti to go with the meal.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:15 pm
by C-dub
seamusTX wrote:ELB wrote:Perhaps "excited delirium" is what you are thinking of?
Yes. It's still debatable whether that actually is a medical term. It certainly occurs often enough to seem like a syndrome.
- Jim
Whether it's an actual medical term or not, I've witnessed the behavior when I worked in the hospital. I got call down to the ER one night to assist and they brought some guy in who was up on something. While strapped to the gurney in the ambulance with two EMTs and an LEO holding him he still managed to wreck the back of that Ambulance pretty good. Between the EMTs, LEO, and myself we were able to hold him down enough in the ER to get some blood for toxicology tests to find out what to give him. It was an interesting 30 minutes.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:18 pm
by JP171
I personally prefer giving the person a paralytic, stops all that stuff in about 5 seconds, bad part is ya gotta breathe for them.
Re: FL: Miami police shoot attacker in bizarre assault
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:51 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I remember once when I worked in the ER having to contain a guy who was high on PCP and came charging out of his treatment room with a 500 lb gurney strapped to his back like it was a papoose. Didn't even slow him down. I also saw a guy on PCP once flex so hard against the leather wrist restraints that he snapped his own humerus mid-shaft. Made a hell of pop when it broke.