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Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:52 pm
by Lambda Force
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/articl ... w-homeless

Mr. Lewis: "A former security guard and law enforcement officer...with a permit to carry a concealed weapon."

Mr. Ludwick: A "convicted felon" " who had a blood-alcohol level of 0.189 when tested at the hospital that night" got out the car he was driving and he and one of his passengers assaulted Mr. Lewis, who shot Mr. Ludwick in self defense.

"Jurors found Lewis’ actions entirely appropriate" but he spent 112 days in jail before his criminal trial. During that time, he was evicted and his property left on the curb, where most of it was stolen. The judge who signed the eviction didn't have Lewis brought from the jail for the hearing, and then he ruled against Mr. Lewis for failure to appear.

Polk County Attorney John Sarcone: "What Lewis’ case shows is that current law works, Sarcone said: “I don’t know why people are afraid of jury trials. I’m not.”"

Re: Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:45 pm
by Heartland Patriot
Not to knock the reason for posting the story in the least because I agree its messed up...but that was NOT in Texas. There is another thread going that this sort of thing plays into...these may be cautionary tales, but cautionary to not let Texas get like those other places, no matter how many threats are made of dire consequences or how much the "antis" try to "shame" us. WE have OUR laws in OUR state for a reason...and its stories like the one posted above that help remind me why I came home after getting out of the Air Force.

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Re: Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:57 pm
by ELB
I believe the story already has a thread or two about it...

But still, it was/is a sad situation for Mr. Lewis.

I don't think the fact that the laws in Texas are different makes much of a difference (and I doubt the law is all that much different from Iowa)... what makes a difference is the culture and the individuals enforcing the law, and even that varies by city. Note that even after the MPA was passed the first time, Rosenthal (I think was his name) continued to instruct Houston police to arrest otherwise lawabiding citizens, and to prosecute them, for having a gun in their car, and he was never brought to heel on this. As I recall, he was finally ejected from office for some bad emails in his office, not misusing the law to persecute citizens.

If a prosecutor says you are guilty of manslaughter, regardless of the facts or the law, to jail you will go, and it will be up to you to bail yourself out in the interim before trial. The prosecutor is essentially immune from his own mistakes, bias, and even deliberate misconduct, except through elections or massive...and I mean massive... public outcry.

Re: Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:18 pm
by Lambda Force
It says a lot about a system where DAs and judges hold citizens responsible for things the citizens do, but refuse to accept responsibility for the things they intentionally or knowingly do. That is no longer a system with justice for all.

This happened in another state but don't fool yourself that there aren't judges and DAs in Texas who hold citizens responsible for what the citizen does, but hide behind "sovereign immunity" for their actions. That's the excuse of evil despots, not honorable men of good morals.

Re: Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:34 pm
by Jumping Frog
I cannot search as well on my phone and post links, but this is definitely a duplicate.

Re: Why Some People Don't Trust "The System"

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:58 pm
by Keith B
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