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Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:54 am
by rp_photo
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We CHL's are taught not to intervene if not in danger ourselves, and this is a great example.
In this case I'm assuming that the victims didn't have weapons, which would make this even more important.
Just be a good witness, as they say.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:17 am
by SavageMythology
In this case, I agree with you. The two women were not in any immediate danger, but put themselves in such by making their presence known and thus making them a danger to the burglar. They should have called the police instead and documented everything they possibly could about the situation and suspect.
Of course, this is not taking into account possible variables such as the presence of people in the apartment which was being broken in to. The two women may have known the tenents of that unit, if there were any, and wanted to protect them from possible harm. If that was case, then I can't say that I really blame them for what they did.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:31 am
by 03Lightningrocks
It seems calling the police first would have been the better move in this situation. It sounded like the BG ran into their apartment after they yelled at him. That is pretty unusual behavior for a bad guy. In that scenario, I am not sure I would call, hollering at him, a bad move. It turned out bad, but simply hollering at the guy from a different location does not seem risky on the surface. I don't think they went downstairs and confronted him. Calling the cops should have been first move in any case.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:30 pm
by sugar land dave
That story is so badly written that I am still not sure what went down.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:40 pm
by RoyGBiv
sugar land dave wrote:That story is so badly written that I am still not sure what went down.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:48 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
RoyGBiv wrote:sugar land dave wrote:That story is so badly written that I am still not sure what went down.
Yep... I had a little trouble knowing what happened also. I have the visual that the two ladies heard noise in the apartment below them. they scream at the guy to go away... he then came upstairs and attacked them??? Afterward, he jumped out their window?
LOL... maybe he was on crack!
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:32 pm
by philip964
All I heard on the radio was that they yelled at the robber to stop and he turned and started shooting at them.
Note to self, do not yell stop at any robber unless you are armed and already have your gun out.
Child whose mother was in the hospital said the man was wearing a black hoodie.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:29 pm
by The Annoyed Man
philip964 wrote:Child whose mother was in the hospital said the man was wearing a black hoodie.
What the heck is the dealio with black hoodies? You'd think by now that pretty much
everybody is suspiscious of people skulking around in black hoodies. You'd think people would react to a black hoodie just like bluejays when a crow shows up.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:06 pm
by WildBill
The Annoyed Man wrote:philip964 wrote:Child whose mother was in the hospital said the man was wearing a black hoodie.
What the heck is the dealio with black hoodies? You'd think by now that pretty much
everybody is suspiscious of people skulking around in black hoodies. You'd think people would react to a black hoodie just like bluejays when a crow shows up.
Gray hoodies also look suspicious to me.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:14 pm
by The Dude
When it's more than 80 degrees outside, all hoodies look suspicious.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:22 pm
by fishfree
rp_photo wrote:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8553086
We CHL's are taught not to intervene if not in danger ourselves, and this is a great example.
In this case I'm assuming that the victims didn't have weapons, which would make this even more important.
Just be a good witness, as they say.
Easier said then done
viewtopic.php?f=108&t=53546. Do not rights also carry responsibilities? Granted hard decisions may be involved and sometimes wrong decisions will be made.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:30 pm
by Glenn61
The Dude wrote:When it's more than 80 degrees outside, all hoodies look suspicious.
Unfortunately, our society tends to pay little attention to their surroundings. That attitude left me pretty quick after my first deployments to several terrorist prone locations.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:36 pm
by WildBill
fishfree wrote:Do not rights also carry responsibilities?
Your responsibilities end when you put yourself in danger for a stranger.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:54 pm
by bayouhazard
Rights come with the responsibility to not abuse those rights. As the saying goes, your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.
Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:10 pm
by philip964
The Annoyed Man wrote:philip964 wrote:Child whose mother was in the hospital said the man was wearing a black hoodie.
What the heck is the dealio with black hoodies? You'd think by now that pretty much
everybody is suspiscious of people skulking around in black hoodies. You'd think people would react to a black hoodie just like bluejays when a crow shows up.
I am told by my son, that I should just say "he was dressed urban" that apparently is now the PC phrase for "black hoodie".