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BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:59 am
by RPB
Police Kill Armed Teen at Texas Middle School
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Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:29 pm
by speedsix
...he might have been a football player...
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:01 pm
by RPB
Pellet Gun
that's sad
Police: Student Killed By Officers Carried Pellet Gun
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looks like he wanted it to be suicide by cop
"He had plenty of opportunities to lower the weapon ... and he didn't want to," Rodriguez said.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:04 pm
by RPB
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:25 pm
by mojo84
What a sad deal. Lots of people impacted in this ordeal.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:36 pm
by mamabearCali
How aweful on every level.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:15 pm
by Heartland Patriot
"Brandishing"...
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:23 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
Sad.
However, behaviors have consequences.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:25 am
by Jasonw560
He was a 15 yo 8th grader. From what I understand from co-workers who live in Brownsville, this school was a haven for gangs.
I love how the relatives always say, "He was a good kid". He walked in, and punched a kid in the nose before this.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:33 am
by Keith B
Heartland Patriot wrote:
"Brandishing"...
The story is accurate in using that term.
Per the Dictionary:
brandish[bran-dish]
bran·dish /ˈbrændɪʃ/
verb (used with object)
1. to shake or wave, as a weapon; flourish: Brandishing his sword, he rode into battle.
2. a flourish or waving, as of a weapon.
So, the reporter used the term correctly.
There is just no law in Texas that uses the term brandishing. Our law that covers the act is Disorderly Conduct
TPC 42.01 (8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:37 am
by RPB
Here's the gist of most recent story
Parents upset, the dad asks ...why was "excessive" force used ... "3 shots instead of just one that would bring him down" ...
I'm not posting a link, I was tempted to comment on the story, but, compassion prevents it.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:04 am
by Keith B
RPB wrote:Here's the gist of most recent story
Parents upset, the dad asks ...why was "excessive" force used ... "3 shots instead of just one that would bring him down" ...
I'm not posting a link, I was tempted to comment on the story, but, compassion prevents it.
I never look at parents or family members comments after one of their relatives get shot. The responses they make are usually irrational as they go through the denial phase that their child was in the wrong and the police had to do what they did.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:29 am
by RPB
Keith B wrote:RPB wrote:Here's the gist of most recent story
Parents upset, the dad asks ...why was "excessive" force used ... "3 shots instead of just one that would bring him down" ...
I'm not posting a link, I was tempted to comment on the story, but, compassion prevents it.
I never look at parents or family members comments after one of their relatives get shot. The responses they make are usually irrational as they go through the denial phase that their child was in the wrong and the police had to do what they did.
Good policy, I usually don't either, I ran across it by accident.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:06 pm
by LSL
AND, the parents want a complete investigation.
May DPS include an investigation of 15 years of parenting skills that culminated in the choices this teenage made.
If he had not already had a driver's license, within a few months he might have been driving, and have been operating a 2,000 pound "weapon" on city streets.
Tradegy -- of course -- for the teen, his family, his schoolmates, his community, the first responders and LEOs who corectly took action.
Avoidable -- of course -- but cannot apply a "Couldda, Shouldda, Wouldda" re-do.
And, of course, the "legal consequences" likely will befall the LEOs and school rather than the parents. Some lawyers will be able to buy new boats, 3-wheelers, trucks, rifles, guns, etc., while the hobbists -- who respect the laws AND the pellet/firearm manufacturers will have to "gather 'round the wagons" in defense.
Just my opinion.
Re: BROWNSVILLE Middle School kid ignored signs
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:59 pm
by Heartland Patriot
Keith B wrote:Heartland Patriot wrote:
"Brandishing"...
The story is accurate in using that term.
Per the Dictionary:
brandish[bran-dish]
bran·dish /ˈbrændɪʃ/
verb (used with object)
1. to shake or wave, as a weapon; flourish: Brandishing his sword, he rode into battle.
2. a flourish or waving, as of a weapon.
So, the reporter used the term correctly.
There is just no law in Texas that uses the term brandishing. Our law that covers the act is Disorderly Conduct
TPC 42.01 (8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;
Yes, I realize in THIS instance, the term was actually used correctly. Often, however, it is not...and so I have developed a severe allergy to that word...