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Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:03 pm
by RHenriksen
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This should almost go in the 'Never Again!' section, but for the fact that the person in question didn't survive :-(

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:10 pm
by sugar land dave
Poor guy was robbed and beat last year. This time the he died in a shootout with robbers. Reportedly the shooter took the security tapes to prevent identification.

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:10 pm
by RHenriksen
sugar land dave wrote: Reportedly the shooter took the security tapes to prevent identification.
Smarter than your average bear, that robber. I'd read that he took the security *camera*, but I don't believe everything you read in the press...

I know it's good to have the VCR (aka DVR) physically separate from the camera(s); I wonder how many people think to put the DVR in a physically secure location, like inside of a safe? You'd need a small access hole in the back of the safe for electricity and the camera feed(s).

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:58 pm
by TX Rancher

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:17 pm
by RHenriksen
TX Rancher wrote:Police think they have the guy...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... Stories%29
Good job HPD!

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:54 pm
by Blindref757
$100K bond for Murder? :shock: Judges!!! :banghead:

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:42 am
by OldCurlyWolf
Blindref757 wrote:$100K bond for Murder? :shock: Judges!!! :banghead:
Especially Murder while in the commission of another felony. He could be charged with capital murder. :banghead: :mad5

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:11 am
by speedsix
...some businesses need to go back to the day when there was a man with a rifle up above the sales floor watching everyone who came in...shame that we're so "civilized" now...at least the good guys are...seems the scum is still scum....

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:55 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
speedsix wrote:...some businesses need to go back to the day when there was a man with a rifle up above the sales floor watching everyone who came in...shame that we're so "civilized" now...at least the good guys are...seems the scum is still scum....
Can't recall the exact story, or provide a link but somewhere in the past I read about a bank in a rural
area that had a small, elderly, inconspicuous security guard.

Two guys came in to rob the bank and either didn't notice this old man, or thought he was harmless.

This little old man drew a 1911 and dropped both of the robbers. :-)

SIA

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:56 pm
by speedsix
...common sense at its best...usually found more the further you get from a corporate HQ...

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:07 pm
by Excaliber
RHenriksen wrote:
sugar land dave wrote: Reportedly the shooter took the security tapes to prevent identification.
Smarter than your average bear, that robber. I'd read that he took the security *camera*, but I don't believe everything you read in the press...

I know it's good to have the VCR (aka DVR) physically separate from the camera(s); I wonder how many people think to put the DVR in a physically secure location, like inside of a safe? You'd need a small access hole in the back of the safe for electricity and the camera feed(s).
Doing that would void the UL rating required for insurance unless it was something provided by the manufacturer and included in the rating test.

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:09 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Aren't there video security cameras that stream to a website so robbers would never be able to confiscate a physical device in the store?

SIA

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:14 pm
by RHenriksen
Excaliber wrote:
RHenriksen wrote:
sugar land dave wrote: Reportedly the shooter took the security tapes to prevent identification.
Smarter than your average bear, that robber. I'd read that he took the security *camera*, but I don't believe everything you read in the press...

I know it's good to have the VCR (aka DVR) physically separate from the camera(s); I wonder how many people think to put the DVR in a physically secure location, like inside of a safe? You'd need a small access hole in the back of the safe for electricity and the camera feed(s).
Doing that would void the UL rating required for insurance unless it was something provided by the manufacturer and included in the rating test.
Interesting, why? Concerns about overheating?

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:19 pm
by Keith B
RHenriksen wrote:
Excaliber wrote:
RHenriksen wrote:
sugar land dave wrote: Reportedly the shooter took the security tapes to prevent identification.
Smarter than your average bear, that robber. I'd read that he took the security *camera*, but I don't believe everything you read in the press...

I know it's good to have the VCR (aka DVR) physically separate from the camera(s); I wonder how many people think to put the DVR in a physically secure location, like inside of a safe? You'd need a small access hole in the back of the safe for electricity and the camera feed(s).
Doing that would void the UL rating required for insurance unless it was something provided by the manufacturer and included in the rating test.
Interesting, why? Concerns about overheating?
Safes are UL Fire Rated for certain amounts of time and that would invalidate the fire rating by poking a hole in it.

Re: Houston: Jewelry store owner dies in shootout w. robber

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:22 pm
by RHenriksen
Ah, he was talking about the safe, not the dvr.

I was thinking of filling the hole w fire putty.