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West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:15 am
by texanron
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/te ... h-shooting
Well....if the Government ain't going to protect them.....

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:20 am
by speedsix
...had they gotten out of their truck? Were they armed? What's the OWNER's side of the story...amazing that they told the trespasser's side ALONE...(not really)...and they didn't "alledge"...the media's already on the poor trespassers' side...somebody gots to stick up for the property owner!!!

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:08 pm
by seamusTX
Well, you could get a little closer to the source than a Houston TV station (even if it is a Fox affiliate—or maybe especially because it's a Fox affiliate).

http://www.ktsm.com/news/newschannel-9- ... nty-speaks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18040844? ... st_emailed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:04 pm
by texanron
Well Jim. If you read the article in the link I posted from the local Fox news station you will see two letters (AP). This is an indication that it was a news release from the Associated Press. Also, at the very bottom of the news release you will see the source of the story was KTSM TV. One of the very stations you linked in your reply.

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:23 pm
by seamusTX
I know what AP means, and how local stories get onto the national wire.

- Jim

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:57 pm
by RoyGBiv
It's Obamas fault.

Failure to address the open border.
Actively discouraging deportations.
Failure to enforce immigration laws.

:mrgreen:

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:49 pm
by seamusTX
I guess everyone whose name ends in z or a vowel is an illegal alien.

Here's a questionable interpretation of deadly force law from the El Paso Times:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18048540? ... ost_viewed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They imply that property owners can use deadly force against trespassers in the nighttime. In any case, this incident occurred in broad daylight.

- Jim

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:21 pm
by Reloader
AP -always Phony..

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:39 am
by OldCurlyWolf
seamusTX wrote:I guess everyone whose name ends in z or a vowel is an illegal alien.

Here's a questionable interpretation of deadly force law from the El Paso Times:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18048540? ... ost_viewed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They imply that property owners can use deadly force against trespassers in the nighttime. In any case, this incident occurred in broad daylight.

- Jim
When was the last time you spent any time near the border?

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:38 am
by speedsix
...we've still only heard the trespasser's side of the story...

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:15 pm
by tbrown
After wounding the men, the rancher reportedly loaded them into a minivan and drove them about 20 miles to a fire station in Fabens
That was his undoing.

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:19 pm
by C-dub
tbrown wrote:
After wounding the men, the rancher reportedly loaded them into a minivan and drove them about 20 miles to a fire station in Fabens
That was his undoing.
On the contrary. It might be his saving grace. I'm just speculating of course, but maybe after realizing his mistake, he sought help. It might show that he was not just a blood thirsty murderer and trigger happy.

More details to come. I could certainly be proven wrong.

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:03 pm
by Kawabuggy
I'd like to hear the ranchers side of the story at this point.

And who here has ever decided that they wanted to go look at property to buy and trespassed on anothers property while doing so? I know when I was looking for property I did not do any "scouting" as the trespassers alluded to. I simply called a real estate agent that was known to have a lot of experience in the area I was looking.. Scouting, as the trespassers state they were doing, can be misconstrued in a lot of different ways.. Scouting to come back at night and steal. Scouting for a home to barge into with firearms and commit a home invasion.

The trespasser being interviewed is playing the race card alluding to the fact that perhaps the rancher may not be hispanic.

I wonder if either of the two trespassers have an arrest record.. That might be pertinent information. If either, or both, of them have a previous history of theft of property, or trespassing, then I can't see their lawsuit gaining much traction. So much more information is needed at this point.

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:40 pm
by speedsix
BINGO!!!

Re: West Texas Rancher Shoots Trespassers

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:18 pm
by JNMAR
Kawabuggy wrote:I'd like to hear the ranchers side of the story at this point.

And who here has ever decided that they wanted to go look at property to buy and trespassed on anothers property while doing so? I know when I was looking for property I did not do any "scouting" as the trespassers alluded to. I simply called a real estate agent that was known to have a lot of experience in the area I was looking.. Scouting, as the trespassers state they were doing, can be misconstrued in a lot of different ways.. Scouting to come back at night and steal. Scouting for a home to barge into with firearms and commit a home invasion.

The trespasser being interviewed is playing the race card alluding to the fact that perhaps the rancher may not be hispanic.

I wonder if either of the two trespassers have an arrest record.. That might be pertinent information. If either, or both, of them have a previous history of theft of property, or trespassing, then I can't see their lawsuit gaining much traction. So much more information is needed at this point.
Apparently you haven't been to far West Texas. There are miles and miles of roads out there, some with fences, cattle guards and many without. Some are posted and some not. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I suspect the rancher will be in the court room trying to explain the hand he decided to play out.