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Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:35 am
by WildBill
Police have arrested a man suspected in a fatal shooting an apartment complex in south Houston. Anthony R. Jenkins, 31, is charged with murder in the killing of Craig Lyn Robertson, 18.
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Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:09 pm
by sugar land dave
Good! Another BG off the streets! Good way to start the weekend!
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Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:15 pm
by seamusTX
Sorry to tell you the suspect already bonded out.
- Jim
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:26 pm
by sugar land dave
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How does a violent crime suspect get out so easily? Releasing accused suspects back onto the streets so quickly does nothing to increase public safety.
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With catch and release occurring in Texas, my chl decision seems better and more reasonable as time passes.
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:28 pm
by Derf
Y'all think Houston is bad, I could tell you stories about my time as a LEO in Washington DC when homicide suspects were released on personal recognizance due to overcrowding in DC Jail. Judges there almost treat criminals as the victims...
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:14 pm
by seamusTX
Habeus corpus or bail is the most fundamental legal right in the common law system. It is in Magna Carta, and it is the only individual right enumerated in the body of the Constitution (Article One, Section 9, clause 2).
Without habeus corpus, the government could accuse anyone of heinous crimes and lock him up in a dungeon for a decade or so while they contemplated the trial. That is exactly what the English kings were doing back in the dark ages, and repressive governments do it today.
The amount of bail is supposed to guarantee that the defendant shows up for trial. It is not a punishment in advance for a crime that the defendant has not been convicted of.
One has to wonder how Mr. Tattoo Art came up with 10 grand so quickly, though.
- Jim
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:03 pm
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:One has to wonder how Mr. Tattoo Art came up with 10 grand so quickly, though. - Jim
He probably had to dip into the savings from his college fund.
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Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:13 pm
by sugar land dave
seamusTX wrote:Habeus corpus or bail is the most fundamental legal right in the common law system. It is in Magna Carta, and it is the only individual right enumerated in the body of the Constitution (Article One, Section 9, clause 2).
Without habeus corpus, the government could accuse anyone of heinous crimes and lock him up in a dungeon for a decade or so while they contemplated the trial. That is exactly what the English kings were doing back in the dark ages, and repressive governments do it today.
The amount of bail is supposed to guarantee that the defendant shows up for trial. It is not a punishment in advance for a crime that the defendant has not been convicted of.
One has to wonder how Mr. Tattoo Art came up with 10 grand so quickly, though.
- Jim
Oh, I know all of that, but does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Does it make you feel safer, or is it your chl that makes you feel safer? I know where defense attorney's opinions will fall on the visible light scale of humanity, but is that really where a city like Houston wants to be?
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:17 pm
by gigag04
Many of the forum members are quick to stamp their feet about THEIR 4th amendment and 2nd amendment rights. The 8th amendment is just as valid. Oh the double edged sword of protection
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Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:22 pm
by seamusTX
sugar land dave wrote:Oh, I know all of that, but does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
No. Freedom isn't safe; and safety, or security as it usually is called nowadays, impinges on freedom.
It only reassures me that malicious government officials would have some trouble locking me up just because they felt like it.
Psalm 23 makes me feel as safe as I'm going to feel.
- Jim
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:08 am
by sugar land dave
gigag04 wrote:Many of the forum members are quick to stamp their feet about THEIR 4th amendment and 2nd amendment rights. The 8th amendment is just as valid. Oh the double edged sword of protection
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But I have read where the courts have found that "preventative detention" can supersede release on bail where the person is accused of a violent felony and might represent a serious threat to other members of society.
Re: Houston Police Arrest Drive-By Shooter Suspect
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:31 am
by sugar land dave
seamusTX wrote:sugar land dave wrote:Oh, I know all of that, but does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
No. Freedom isn't safe; and safety, or security as it usually is called nowadays, impinges on freedom.
It only reassures me that malicious government officials would have some trouble locking me up just because they felt like it.
Psalm 23 makes me feel as safe as I'm going to feel.
- Jim
Old testament rather than John 3:16?