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Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:10 am
by seamusTX
In Ft. Worth, a convicted sex offender who was wanted on a new charge allegedly tried to fake his own death. He allegedly killed a homeless man who resembled him, stuffed the body in the trunk of a car, and set the car on fire.
Police were not fooled. They arrested the suspect Thursday after a standoff, during which he reportedly tried to slit his own neck.
He is recovering and charged with capital murder.
It was the second time that the suspect had tried to fake his own death.
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http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/04/07 ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Jim
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:20 am
by MasterOfNone
seamusTX wrote:he reportedly tried to slit his own neck.
This seems like a good time for the police to take their time and give the suspect a minute before arresting him.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:54 am
by Texas Size 11
MasterOfNone wrote:seamusTX wrote:he reportedly tried to slit his own neck.
This seems like a good time for the police to take their time and give the suspect a minute before arresting him.
No kidding...give the guy what he wants and keep him off the State's dime.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:00 am
by seamusTX
Note that this fine citizen has been in and out of prison since 1987, and most recently is accused of raping his own 16-year-old sister.
- Jim
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:10 am
by ELB
seamusTX wrote:Note that this fine citizen has been in and out of prison since 1987, and most recently is accused of raping his own 16-year-old sister.
- Jim
I think you go sucked in by poor wording in the article. It appears it was someone else's sister, altho maybe still a relative. Which still makes him scum.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:24 am
by seamusTX
Probably you are right, and I was confused by the antecedent of "his sister."
This article definitely states that the rape victim was a relative:
On the same day that the burning car was found, crimes-against-children investigators obtained an arrest warrant against Gilbert alleging sexual assault of a child under 17, stemming from claims that he had molested a teenage relative over the past several months.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/04/07 ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It doesn't matter whom he raped. It's a moral outrage in any case. Rape is never excusable or justifiable.
- Jim
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:30 am
by The Annoyed Man
seamusTX wrote:Probably you are right, and I was confused by the antecedent of "his sister."
This article definitely states that the rape victim was a relative:
On the same day that the burning car was found, crimes-against-children investigators obtained an arrest warrant against Gilbert alleging sexual assault of a child under 17, stemming from claims that he had molested a teenage relative over the past several months.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/04/07 ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It doesn't matter whom he raped. It's a moral outrage in any case. Rape is never excusable or justifiable.
- Jim
But although I understand the sentiment, hanging back just a bit and letting this guy finish slitting his own throat isn't either. Then there isn't any retribution on behalf of his victims. Execution is the proper response, at the hands of the state. For
her sake. For closure.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:48 am
by seamusTX
SCOTUS ruled out capital punishment for rape a while back.
I honestly think there is no practical rehabilitation for people like this. They re-offend at the first opportunity. Probably they hate themselves, the way most addicts and obsessive-compulsives do.
At best they will be put out of their misery when they cross the wrong guy in prison.
- Jim
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:22 pm
by The Annoyed Man
seamusTX wrote:SCOTUS ruled out capital punishment for rape a while back.
I honestly think there is no practical rehabilitation for people like this. They re-offend at the first opportunity. Probably they hate themselves, the way most addicts and obsessive-compulsives do.
At best they will be put out of their misery when they cross the wrong guy in prison.
- Jim
Too bad about the SCOTUS ruling. It would be interesting to know if the percentage of the total population which experiences rape as a victim of it has increased or decreased since that ruling.
Maybe it should be reinstituted.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:28 pm
by Beiruty
Maybe his real death should be certified. Suicide is still an option and for sure no one will punish him for committing such homicide.
Re: Ft. Worth: Sex offender tries to fake own death
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:48 pm
by seamusTX
The Annoyed Man wrote:Too bad about the SCOTUS ruling. It would be interesting to know if the percentage of the total population which experiences rape as a victim of it has increased or decreased since that ruling.
This is the second time today I get to use the word
unknowable.
SCOTUS ruled against capital punishment for rape in
Coker v. Georgia in 1977.
The state of Louisiana tried legislating around the criteria of that case and prescribed capital punishment for rape of children. SCOTUS overturned that law in
Kennedy v. Louisiana in 2008.
(In the latter case, the justices extended their reasoning to say that capital punishment could be used only for murder, treason, or espionage.)
The problem with predicting the effects of these rulings or other changes in the law is that attitudes toward rape and other forms of sexual molestation (all of which would be sexual assault or aggravated sexual assault under current Texas law) have changed.
In earlier decades rape and sexual abuse were considered so shameful that victims often did not report the crimes. If they told family, the family often hushed it up. If they complained to the police, it was difficult to bring a case before modern advances in forensics (such as DNA testing).
We've had something like 30 years of social encouragement to report sexual abuse and changes in laws and police techniques that make it easier to prosecute.
Still, the reported rate of forcible rape has declined along with other crimes since the early 1990s. It peaked in 1992.
- Jim