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Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:22 am
by cubbyjg
This new is probably not new for many of us unfortunately that live in the suburbs of Houston. Be safe out there, stay alert and armed.
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Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:26 am
by Oldgringo
It's Bush's fault.
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Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:05 am
by Capt Roy
I think hard times contribute to this..
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:26 am
by Grammy
Oldgringo wrote:It's Bush's fault.
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It has to be, what else could it be...
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Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:28 am
by longtooth
Moved this to the new forum "Crime Blotter".
Couple O jokes are OK but lets get it back on topic please.
LT
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:50 am
by OldCannon
Capt Roy wrote:I think hard times contribute to this..
Recent trends say otherwise:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/325361
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:55 am
by Cobra Medic
Poor breeding is more to blame than poor economy.
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:00 pm
by chasfm11
One of the more interesting comments from the article was that about arresting one person and solving a crime wave. Several other statistics would be interesting to see:
- unsolved crime rate - does it vary with the increase or is it a large part of the increase?
- of those who are apprehended, how many are long history recidivists? It appears that, in the Dallas area that I know about, revolving door justice is in full swing and there is little consequence for many who are caught. It would be even more disconcerting to understand that there is a whole new group of criminals being created. I do understand that desperation in hard times may drive some to attempt property crimes but the corresponding increase in violent crimes probably has a different origin.
This is very interesting in light of the saturation of the Texas CHLs in many of the same areas. I read somewhere recently that 3 out of 5 BGs were more afraid of armed citizens than they are the police. Apparently the number of armed citizens in the area is not yet high enough to be a deterrent. We need to fix that.
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:35 pm
by shootthesheet
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:03 pm
by chasfm11
I was looking for something that would show similar statistics in the Dallas area suburbs. I didn't find what I wanted but I did find this.
http://www.crimereports.com/map/index/? ... omlevel=14
One of the areas where there was a trend counter to the National reduction was League City. I thought the map of that area was interesting.
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:31 pm
by Middle Age Russ
Poor breeding is more to blame than poor economy.
... along with no/lacking moral and ethics education and role models, declining nuclear families per capita, and few opportunities to understand the concept of natural consequences to our actions (since legal consequences are too often little more than an inconvenience).
Russ
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:36 pm
by esxmarkc
Given the demographics of the problem.... I believe the answer lies right here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/29/9 ... d-new.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By July 2009, New Orleans' population had rebounded to 354,850, or 78 percent of the pre-storm total. The metro area (1,189,981) has recovered 91 percent of its pre-Katrina level.
I'll give you one guess where all those people without well-rooted families, homes, and jobs ended up.
Hint:
Pearland, League City, Baytown, Texas City, Dickinson, La Marque, Katy, Richmond, Santa Fe, Liberty, Brazoria, Montgomery and Houston
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:02 pm
by OldCannon
Really sad.
I lived in that area (on Knoll Forest Dr) for about 5 years when I was working at NASA from 90-94. Was a nice neighborhood. A shame that it's gone so bad now. My son told me he drove by that area a couple years ago and felt like he needed an armored van to get through there safely.
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:16 am
by cubbyjg
I share similar feelings as well. I was born and raised in Pasadena and it was a great place. Never had any issues, and the people were great. Now when i go there, i hardly recognize it and i hear all the horror stories of how it has gotten bad. My friend teaches at our old high school and there are days where she is worried about getting hurt. Such a shame
Re: Jump in crime in Houston
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:39 pm
by Dave2
chasfm11 wrote:This is very interesting in light of the saturation of the Texas CHLs in many of the same areas. I read somewhere recently that 3 out of 5 BGs were more afraid of armed citizens than they are the police.
Care to find the source on that? I'm not doubting it (if I were a BG, I'd be more scared of armed victims... they're already on the scene, and they're not bound by PD policies & regulations), but it'd be nice to be able to tell people where they can find the stats themselves if they don't believe me.