TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

[surprise_i'm_armed]

imkopaka:
Having an LCP on you certainly beats having something in your bride's purse,
but consider this:

I don't know your personal preference for church attire, but myself, I always wear a sport jacket
or suit jacket to church. This allows me to carry 2 pistols: my Ruger SR9C, 17 + 1, in an OWB holster
on my right hip, as well as my XDS45, 5 + 1, in my right front pants pocket.

With this setup I have 24 rounds on me, and could hand off one of the pistols to a friend if something
went bad at church.

I would suggest to any and all that wearing a sport jacket or suit jacket will allow you to greatly increase
your round count & caliber during church services.

Now if I could just convince my LTC gal who sits near to me to get over herself and bring her Colt wheelgun
every week, instead of feeling "funny" about church carry. She knows it's legal. Sheesh. :-)

SIA

[carlson1]

Just because someone has a LTC and carries DOES NOT mean they know how to respond during an active shooter event. I doubt even half of LTCers have had the training to respond.

[Lynyrd]

I'm sick to my stomach. My first thoughts were who would want to kill Christians? Was it racist, or religious persecution? After thinking a bit, it really doesn't matter. Whatever the motivation innocent lives were ended, and I wish there had a been someone there who could have took this scumbag down the moment he showed his gun.

My God grant peace and comfort to the victims families.

[mojo84]

Not sure how accurate this is so consider the source. Reporting killer's name is Devin Patrick Kelley.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-pat ... rch-killer

[The Annoyed Man]

Rep Vicente Gonzalez just said on CNN the shooter’s name is Sam Hyde.

Idiots interviewing an idiot.

Sam Hyde is an Internet meme, and Gonzalez totally fell for it. What an idiot. Someone should tell him the shooter’s real name is Leroy Jenkins, just to see if he repeats that nonsense too.

[bblhd672]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -fire.html

Full combat gear. Said to be not from around there.
14 year old pastors daughter murdered.

I am devistated that this has occurred.

I do not understand the evil in men's hearts.

Republicans will join Democrats in new common sense laws restricting “combat gear.”

[CoffeeNut]

CBS is reporting the shooter is a veteran of the Air Force...

[CoffeeNut]

CBS is reporting the shooter is a veteran of the Air Force...

Recent reporting has him Court Martialed in 2014 and dishonorably discharged.

[mojo84]

Given the type of separation from the military, wouldn't it be illegal for him to own a gun?

[NotRPB]

Rep Vicente Gonzalez just said on CNN the shooter’s name is Sam Hyde.

Idiots interviewing an idiot.

Never trust any shooting report that says the shooter was Sam Hyde. It's a hoax name. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/sa ... .nqP0bAPDG

https://www.mediaite.com/online/congres ... -sam-hyde/

same with the FakeNews HOAX Samir Al-Hajeed name >> used in both Las Vegas and today's http://www.smobserved.com/story/2017/11 ... /3188.html

@NBCNews

.@PeteWilliamsNBC: Law enforcement officials identify gunman in Texas shooting as 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley

https://t.co/rbelCiVLFW

on scene are @zhedrickTV and @RSantosTV
https://twitter.com/RSantosTV/with_replies
https://twitter.com/zhedrickTV/with_replies
another reporter
https://twitter.com/CamillaR_TV/with_replies

[parabelum]

Not sure how accurate this is so consider the source. Reporting killer's name is Devin Patrick Kelley.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-pat ... rch-killer

I saw that too. Antifa?

[sjfcontrol]

Fox News says killer is Devin Patrick Kelley

[CoffeeNut]

Given the type of separation from the military, wouldn't it be illegal for him to own a gun?

If he was actually convicted at the Court Martial, which it sounds like he was, then I do believe it is illegal. A court martial conviction is the same as a felony conviction.

[NotRPB]

Fox News says killer is Devin Patrick Kelley

correct

@NBCNews

.@PeteWilliamsNBC: Law enforcement officials identify gunman in Texas shooting as 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley from comal county

Law enforcement officials identified the gunman on Sunday evening as Devin Patrick Kelley, age 26, of neighboring Comal County. Officials were preparing to search his home. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/se ... d_nn_tw_ma

[CoffeeNut]

Witness on CBS that gave first aid, reports that someone inside the church returned fire and continued firing as the shooter got into his truck, shattering his window.

Its a witness report so you know how those go but he seemed extremely credible and he moved in to render immediate assistance.