Someone give this Marine a job (College Station)

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Re: Someone give this Marine a job (College Station)

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VMI77 wrote: I agree, but why would anyone who isn't a deranged liberal want to work for any of those companies or people anyway? I work in the utility industry and if there is anyone I work with who wouldn't applaud this guy, including the hiring supervisors, I've never heard them say anything that would so indicate. Most of the people who do the grunt work, and most of the technicians and engineers, are conservatives or libertarians, and gun owners. Many of them have CHL's. I have photos of guns posted in my office and one of my female coworkers asked for a copy of one of them. I don't even know of an employee in the building, male or female, who is anti-gun. In fact, I've never heard an anti-gun sentiment expressed by anyone I work with. My company provided a free CHL course for employees. I'm sure a guy like this Marine would have no problem being hired in this industry.
From what I saw in this thread, he's trying to go to college. So why would he want to work where people don't think like he does, because he needs a job. He needs to eat and pay rent. With the economy like it is, jobs are tight. If he's going to school, he needs a job that can accomodate a class schedule. Turning down a job like this on principle sounds good until you are hungry and it's rent time. I don't know about others but when I've been in job interviews, i don't ask the interviewer to tell me how he/she feels about guns, use of deadly force etc. If i find the work place to be hostile to me, i would likely start looking for a better place to work, while I'm drawing a paycheck.
I think we're talking about two different things, or perhaps, two different time lines. I believe you're talking short-term....unless you're suggesting you'd spend your whole life in such a job. I'm talking long-term. I too have been in jobs with miserable management and each time I worked at leaving as soon as I could. Sometimes it even took a few years. I don't suffer fools gladly, so more than once I've endured a rather large cut in pay to change jobs --my first move cut my pay in half. Unless one is very lucky, there is always a trade-off between pay and working conditions. Also, when you work in a particular industry long enough you learn what the different companies that comprise it are like so you go to an interview knowing what to expect on the job. There are companies in my industry I wouldn't even consider working for --except perhaps, as a short stop along the way to something else.

However, my main point is that there are workplaces, even whole industries, where what this Marine did would be appreciated and not be any impediment to employment.
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Re: Someone give this Marine a job (College Station)

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jerry_r60 wrote:
VMI77 wrote: I agree, but why would anyone who isn't a deranged liberal want to work for any of those companies or people anyway? I work in the utility industry and if there is anyone I work with who wouldn't applaud this guy, including the hiring supervisors, I've never heard them say anything that would so indicate. Most of the people who do the grunt work, and most of the technicians and engineers, are conservatives or libertarians, and gun owners. Many of them have CHL's. I have photos of guns posted in my office and one of my female coworkers asked for a copy of one of them. I don't even know of an employee in the building, male or female, who is anti-gun. In fact, I've never heard an anti-gun sentiment expressed by anyone I work with. My company provided a free CHL course for employees. I'm sure a guy like this Marine would have no problem being hired in this industry.
From what I saw in this thread, he's trying to go to college. So why would he want to work where people don't think like he does, because he needs a job. He needs to eat and pay rent. With the economy like it is, jobs are tight. If he's going to school, he needs a job that can accomodate a class schedule. Turning down a job like this on principle sounds good until you are hungry and it's rent time. I don't know about others but when I've been in job interviews, i don't ask the interviewer to tell me how he/she feels about guns, use of deadly force etc. If i find the work place to be hostile to me, i would likely start looking for a better place to work, while I'm drawing a paycheck.
During my time in the service, I was stationed at a couple of places where my immediate bosses were not, shall we say, the best of my career. Now, I couldn't just up and quit on the spot, but I could have gotten out when my enlistment was up. I didn't because the investment of my time and effort was far too great. So I can understand that there are circumstances that would keep a person working a job that they aren't very happy with.
And when I was in the military I made the opposite choice....everyone was telling me there were no jobs in the civilian world and my response was that I'd work at Mickey D's before I spent another day in uniform. I had to take a huge cut in pay but I got out and didn't have to work at Mickey D's. I can understand being in a situation where making such a choice is not a viable option, but I think a lot of the time when people stay at a job they hate, or say they hate, or say they need to survive, the reality is that their standard of living is more important to them than the abuse they take at work.

My wife stayed home and homeschooled our children. I worked with people who made more money than I did, and had a spouse who worked, who told me they couldn't afford to homeschool. That was a statement of priorities and a choice. We met plenty of homeschool families who made a different choice and lived on one-third the income I had at the time --they made a different and more difficult choice. While there are people out there saying there are no jobs, I work with several people now who have two jobs. Often, when people say there are no jobs out there, what they really mean is that there are no jobs they are willing to do. I don't mean this as a criticism --in some cases there are jobs that shouldn't be taken, and people may have their own reasons for choosing to remain unemployed. However, they are making a choice. If someone has to work a job and truly has no choice then he is a slave.
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VMI77 wrote: I think we're talking about two different things, or perhaps, two different time lines.
Agreed, sounds like it. I understood that this was about a job to get through college.
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Heartland Patriot wrote:*EDITED TO ADD UPDATE*

I sure wish there was a good alternative to Wal-Mart in my area...but everything else comparable is just not in my daily route. Not that it will do any good, but I'm going to write them and give them a piece of my mind, in a professional manner. Spineless weasels... :grumble

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Just landed in Chicago, coming out of Houston. Had a terribly entertaining 2+ hour conversation with my seatmate. Among many topics, he mentioned his son, who did three tours in the sandbox with the Marines. But his son ran into a bit of trouble while working at a Walmart, in College Station... yep, same guy! Small world. Awfully nice guy, and I asked him to give his son my best & thanks. Sounds like he's doing okay, and has a great family to fall back on. He's landed another job in College Station, and is moving on & going to school.
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I definitely don't agree with most of Wal-Mart's choices. I won't be making any friends by pointing out that the employee violated policy. Wal-Mart policy is to not chase people who are stealing. The policy is to document the theft so the police can deal with it. The main reason is because it could go the other way and Wal-Mart does not want their employees dying for merchandise. When the employee went after the burglar in the parking lot he made a choice to violate the policy. When the burglar attacked him with a weapon the employee had the right to protect himself however, he put himself in that situation. Wal-Mart asked him to resign not because they didn't believe his actions were just, they asked him to because otherwise they would be sending the wrong message about the policy to the other employees. That's why they gave him the choice of how to handle it. What would public reaction be the next time an employee decided to play hero and lost their life.

I really hope this soldier gets a job soon. I'm sure the public outrage will improve his chances. This man is a hero in my eyes not because he stopped a burglar in a parking lot but because of his choice to fight for my freedoms foreign and domestic.
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I may have missed somebody else mentioning this but... he was employed by Walmart as LOSS PREVENTION!
and they fired him for preventing loss! "rlol"

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rp_photo wrote:I would be very hesitant to intervene in a theft there whether an employee or not given their track record of punishing good deeds.

One would also think that an FORMER-Marine would have plenty of opportunities where they would be more appreciated.
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urnoodle's observation IS correct!

I'm very sorry this former Marine did what appears to be the right/just thing, but what he did was not part of his job. The fact that his position is in Loss Prevention is undoubtedly ironic... However, Walmart corporate policy doesn't allow their employees to "step in" (if you will) and stop thieves in a hands on manner. Loss Prevention doesn't mean acting as a surrogate LEO.

That said: If there was any way I could hire him, I would, but the only job I have to offer is already filled by a family member.
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Re: Someone give this Marine a job (College Station)

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Abraham wrote:urnoodle's observation IS correct!

I'm very sorry this former Marine did what appears to be the right/just thing, but what he did was not part of his job. The fact that his position is in Loss Prevention is undoubtedly ironic... However, Walmart corporate policy doesn't allow their employees to "step in" (if you will) and stop thieves in a hands on manner. Loss Prevention doesn't mean acting as a surrogate LEO.

That said: If there was any way I could hire him, I would, but the only job I have to offer is already filled by a family member.
I work with WM's LP on a regular basis - they do contact people and bring them to the office. In doing so, the subject displayed a weapon. We are no longer at a "preventing loss" issue - we just moved to "preventing loss of life." The guy did what needed to be done to stop the threat.

I haven't shopped at WM since. Nothing is there that I cannot get from Amazon, eBay, Lowes, or HEB, and the B&M stores are within a mile radius of my house.
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